11/20/16

johns (GM): Salut

c'thinker (GM): hmm

if i can come up with a level 10 InAq spell to go with the one i'm making i can invent 2 spells in one season (i think?)

johns (GM): You can work on multiple spells a season if they're the same set of Arts

c'thinker (GM): wait a minute

the muto terram guidelines do suggest that making a base individual of crystal uses up a base individual of another form of terram

johns (GM): huh

c'thinker (GM): The amount of material you can

change is limited by the guidelines for

each end. Thus, you can turn a cubic pace

of stone into a cubic inch of gemstone

with a base Individual.

johns (GM): Yes, but the magnitude cost is determined by the end product

c'thinker (GM): i was thinking the crystal dart makes absolutely no sense then, but i guess it's just stone instead of gemstone

johns (GM): also its one of those old legacy spells from a million editions ago that they copied over

c'thinker (GM): wizards scooping out 10 cubic yards of earth every time they want to cast their low-level attack spell would be extremely sick though

johns (GM): wizards should be leaving a trail of magical destruction in their wake

c'thinker (GM): can muto effects that turn something into a natural solid, liquid, or gas turn something into fire

johns (GM): yeah

there's an example spell somewhere about turning fire into a gem so the reverse is logical

Lavinia of Jerbiton:

rolling 1d10!+3 Studies Terram Vis

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7

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+3

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10

rolling 1d10!+3 Studies Animal Vis

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2

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+3

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5

rolling 1d10!+3 Studies Animal Vis

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10

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8

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+3

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21

rolling 1d10!-3 aging 1327

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8

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-3

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5

do you recall the adventure XP

c'thinker (GM): for the ghetto adventure? 7

how much damage should the fire from a metal -> fire MuTe spell do

Lavinia of Jerbiton: tricky, what's the base level you have before anything else?

c'thinker (GM): 3 base +2 metal +3 sight

johns (GM): a 1st magnitude "create a fire" spell does +5 damage

so I'd say that's what it does, but you can add extra magnitudes to make it fiercy, just like a regular CrIg

something to keep in mind, you'll have a Casting Requisite of Ignem on this spell, which means when you cast it you have to use the lower of Terram or Ignem score

c'thinker (GM): for aquam poisons at least, it's easier to create more damaging effects with muto than it is with creo

johns (GM): also the rules for Requisites (when you're combining multiple forms into one spell) are vague and kinda contradictory

Hafl T.: they seem straightforward enough to me

c'thinker (GM): maybe i'll knock it down to voice instead of sight

Hafl T.: if the spell wouldn't work as intended without the requisite, the requisite is free

johns (GM): next sentence: Thus, the Herbam and Terram requisites

that allow a spell to change a clothed man

into a bird do not add any levels, because they do

not significantly increase the power of the spell.

alright I think I get what they're saying there then

but then

johns (GM): However, a Rego requisite added to a Creo

Ignem spell to prevent the fire from burning the

caster would require additional levels.

c'thinker (GM): happily i do not add any magnitudes to my elemental spells

johns (GM): oh whew

c'thinker (GM): if the requisite is another element at least

Hafl T.: the next part makes sense too

johns (GM): and yes I'd use voice instead of sight, sight is ~powerful magicks~

Hafl T.: if the spell's duration is greater than momentary, then your own fire can hurt you

c'thinker (GM): powerful magicks ftw.

Hafl T.: or if it would protect you from being hurt by fires you started

c'thinker (GM): hmm

Hafl T.: oh, johns, would you be willing to oversee my mystery cult stuff or should i ask endrite?

i don't really have any goal for the tribunal but getting started on mystery cult seems like a good agenda

johns (GM): I love mystery cults

c'thinker (GM): what happens to the transformed metal? if the fire catches on something before the spell ends would there be a lump of metal stuck to the spot where the fire was

johns (GM): This is a Merinita mystery cult?

c'thinker (GM): or would little bits of fire rain from the sky

Hafl T.: yeah

Illusion Magic

c'thinker (GM): metal i mean. not fire

johns (GM): I guess I should put a Merinita Magus into the tribunal

Hafl T.: i want to get the flaw that makes my Perdo non-permanent as soon as possible

johns (GM): Yeah cthinker I think so

Hafl T.: to get my primary combat spell

good future plot hook: http://puu.sh/soOg1/8a3c6eb790.png

c'thinker (GM): do i use ignem while inventing the spell, too

Hafl T.: you use the lower one

c'thinker (GM): yeah my ignem is lower

Hafl T.: unless elemental magic states otherwise

the big difference between major magical focus and minor magical focus is that major applies to requisites

which is extremely important to me if i want to use glamours since they all need requisites

also, i was trying to figure out a way to make Wizard's Sidestep compatible with invisibility and ended up at L25 spell which isn't too bad

c'thinker (GM): hm.

do i still get the +1 terram bonus for subterranean if i'm calculating my lab total based off the ignem requisite

Hafl T.: i don't believe so

c'thinker (GM): messed up

Hafl T.: if you used terram, you'd get it

c'thinker (GM): goodbye, +1

rolling 1d10 experiment

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8

rolling 1d10! extraordinary results

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10

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18

uhhhh

rolling 1d10! Roll Twice More

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10

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3

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13

jesus

c'thinker (GM):

rolling 1d10! Roll Twice More

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8

rolling 1d10! Roll Twice More

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6

rolling 1d10! Roll Twice More

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1

Hafl T.: good results

c'thinker (GM): ok that's... no effects, side effect, and complete failure

johns (GM): woot

c'thinker (GM): experimenting is some bull shit

Hafl T.: it is

c'thinker (GM): i'm quitting house bonisagus and becoming a criamon.

Hafl T.: lol

johns (GM): good

its time to end the tyrrany of Bonisagus nerds in this covenant

Hafl T.: come join a mystery cult

johns (GM): Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the  Mystery Cult

Hafl T.: once i get glamours, i'll make a forceless glamour wall in front of the door to my lab, so that mundanes can't enter and wizards hit their head on the door

c'thinker (GM): wait, is the 1 a botch

Hafl T.: you have to confirm it

johns (GM): you roll 1 die, 1 extra die for each level of extra danger you took on, plus or minus your lab's safety

c'thinker (GM): trolls 2 only the yell

johns (GM): lol

hey worst case scenario: you destroy the entire covenant

c'thinker (GM):

rolling 1d10

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4

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4

johns (GM): no botch

c'thinker (GM): whew

Hafl T.: can safety reduce the number of botch dice to zero?

johns (GM): which means nothing bad happens actually, you still get the experiment bonus for that season

don't think so

c'thinker (GM): one of my Roll Four Times More was "total failure" though

johns (GM): cripes

c'thinker (GM): do i add my reckless sorcerer botch dice here

Hafl T.: you¨re not actually casting a spell

so i don't think you should

johns (GM): which flaw is that?

careless sorceror? spells only

same with Weird Magic

c'thinker (GM): whew

Proclus of Rome: You know what I should do to protect my sanctum?

johns (GM): anyway here's a "Pro Tip:" get a familiar who can lower your botch die, then start pushing your experimentation risk to the max

Hafl T.: lock the door

Proclus of Rome: Get a floor mat that I can put outside it so people can wipe their feet before they enter.

Hafl T.: make it an enchanted floor mat that sucks dirt from their feet

johns (GM): ^

c'thinker (GM): https://emilysarahabroad.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/jl280386.jpg

johns (GM): sick

ii want that & a matching on on the other side, "Vale"

Hafl T.: my inventive genius doubles when i'm experimenting so it's always worth trying

c'thinker (GM): i'm gonna take 5 xp for this again

johns (GM): last saga BoyRep let me enslave the ghost of our dead verditius comrade who has inventive genius & a new flaw that made all lab work require experimentation. it ruled

Hafl T.: lol

i didn't know about the flaw

Proclus of Rome: Hmm.

johns (GM): with my MmF I was churning out insane lab totals by the end

Hafl T.: experimenting while refining your lab

Proclus of Rome: On the one hand abusing ghosts seems wrong, but on the other hand no ghost is virtuous because if they were they'd be in heaven.

johns (GM): divine ghosts exist

Hafl T.: they're rare

johns (GM): yeah

Proclus of Rome: Don't they only exist inside wards that trap souls?

johns (GM): for instance the witch of endor was able to summon the prophet Samuel's ghost, he was divine but not a saint, ergo, divine ghost

c'thinker (GM): wait a second

this table doesn't make any sense

if all of the values on a d10 correspond to something on the table, but also one of those values makes the die explode

you can never get that result using roll20's dice rollre

roller

Hafl T.: the extraordinary results table?

c'thinker (GM): yeah

Proclus of Rome: You can.

You either roll twice or have a bonus.

c'thinker (GM): oh, that's true

Hafl T.: risk adds to extraordinary results

Proclus of Rome: You might notice that it's the best result on the table from a player perspective.

johns (GM): Back in a bit y'all

c'thinker (GM): amazing. they thought of, uhh, not everything but at least one thing

Endrite: I like the result that says, "Gain enough XP to reach the next level in one of Arts used in the experiment, or 3 XP, whichever is greater."

Darvin: Greetings

johns (GM): haha

Heya Darvin

Joshua S.: greetings

johns (GM): hey Endrite I noticed the Rod now has a couple powers listed on it, does that mean Aleseta figured it out?

Endrite: Yes.

Joshua S.: noice

dys: My lab is now completely walled up and inaccessible. Please update the map accordingly.

johns (GM): can someone refresh my memory on Kabshiel's death, I'd like to be sure it isn't some fakeout and he's hiding in the rod right now

c'thinker (GM): i hit him in the head with a cup

thats all i got

dys: I think Bonfilia killed him.

Endrite: Bonfillia did a lot of damage to him and he disappeared.

johns (GM): I see an easy way to find out, let's use the first power

Who volunteers

c'thinker (GM): big news, i updated my magus

Proclus of Rome: I'd volunteer but I go to confession regularly.

Beardbeard: i can adventure and also use that season setting up my lab right

johns (GM): We just need someone willing to eat a hamburger on a Friday

Joshua S.: big news: orsu is protected against phimosis

Aristocritus Bonisagi: Have the Bogomil do it.

Archibald of Guernicus: Please do not mess with the rod.

johns (GM): I'd like to think Orsu is proudly declaring that at a council meeting to all the Magi in attendance

Joshua S.: he does.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: is phimosis something you can just come down with in mythic europe

Beatrice Orsini faints upon hearing the scandalous words.

Joshua S.: according to art & academe yes

Aristocritus Bonisagi: lmao

johns (GM): Phimosis

Minor Choleric Disease, Severity 6

Stable: 6, Improve: 10, Interval: Month

A particular affliction of promiscuous men

(but can be suffered by both sexes) caused by

excess lust (Non-Natural). It is a painful and

johns (GM): embarrassing disease, but usually clears up on

its own with no lasting aftereffects.

Symptoms: Soft sores on the coital organs,

who suffers a disease Crisis induced by phimosis

which may become poisoned. A man

is left impotent.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: oh, is the reliquary available to be studied

Proclus of Rome: Sure is.

Just go into Bonfillia's lab and get it.

johns (GM): it's got absurdly high level enchanments on it is the problem

Aristocritus Bonisagi: dang.

johns (GM): 3 powers: one L45, one L60, one L4

Joshua S.: if we have vim texts now, aleseta will try to improve her scores and research it

holy moly

Proclus of Rome: UHHHHHH, you aren't supposed to say what level they are!

Beatrice Orsini : i'll need the vim texts as well at some point

johns (GM): I prefer it this way so no one wastes time

investigating already feels like a suboptimal use of a magi's time, why make ita gamble too?

Archibald of Guernicus: Since 1327 I was devouring Something About Vim

Proclus of Rome: Sounds like we need some house rules.

johns (GM): i wont complain if you want to handle your own stuff differently

Joshua S.: oh yeah we have SAV

johns (GM): SAV?

Beatrice Orsini : something about vim

Joshua S.: something abotu vim

johns (GM): everyone wants dat fukken book

Beatrice Orsini : i need to make a magic item to erase ACs before i get harmless magic

and i need a spell to remove illusions

Archibald of Guernicus: Something About Vim was in my lab all summer, and no-one could borrow it because my lab has no entrance.

johns (GM): Potom made a copy of it for the Capocci hedge wizard fyi

Beatrice Orsini : since my disguise spell has a moon duration

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i thought we were not keeping track of who had what book at what time

johns (GM): or maybe he didn't. normally we don't track book availability season by season but it seems this is one hot item

Archibald of Guernicus: One Weird Trick to read in peace.

He could copy it in spring, couldn't he?

Beatrice Orsini : i have other things to study for the next few years

Proclus of Rome: I've made a bunch of copies of Scribe the Perfect Circle and The Significance of the Group.

johns (GM): Ok, that works.

Beatrice Orsini : i can handle what i need vim for by just increasing perdo

Proclus of Rome: They're going to make me really popular at the Tribunal.

johns (GM): are they of any use to non-Geometric magi?

Proclus of Rome: These lab texts are what everyone wants!

Yes.

They don't require Hermetic Numerology to use.

Archibald of Guernicus: I'm willing to timeshare SAV with other magi but I really want to get my vim nice and high for this enchantment to work out.

johns (GM): does Perfect Circle help you with making circle spells?

Archibald of Guernicus: Itll take me years to make this sword how I want it to.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: the council of hermetic geometers is going to kill you

Proclus of Rome: With the lesser fully hermetic version?

Yes.

johns (GM): archibald, have you given your sword a pretentious name yet

Archibald of Guernicus: Yes

johns (GM): may I suggest: "Braveheart"

Joshua S.: lol

Proclus of Rome: Magekiller

It's ironic.

Archibald of Guernicus: Ceartas, which is gaelic for Justice.

Beatrice Orsini : if you could spare SAV for a season next year, i'd appreciate it

but better way would be to make my companion and study the book during an adventure

Archibald of Guernicus: Enchanted swords need a flowery name. It'd be wrong not to.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: gaylick aha

johns (GM): lol

Archibald of Guernicus: Christ. How will the nations of Scotland and Ireland recover from THAT burn.

Beatrice Orsini : they won't

Aristocritus Bonisagi: historical

johns (GM): Endrite is bringing some lab texts to trade, anyone else want to publish stuff or copy stuff?

Joshua S.: hmm aleseta can trade some of her texts

Proclus of Rome: Hmm.

Beatrice Orsini : i have nothing special to trade

Proclus of Rome: I guess I'll leave one copy of each back at the Covenant, since I know you all want to be able to draw a perfect circle.

Beatrice Orsini : i can't spare seasons for that just yet

johns (GM): we have scribes who can copy this stuff too

and an illuminator who can make the copies pretty and put little gilt drawings of wizards on it

c'thinker: i only have something to trade if i go back in time and publish my lab notes instead of reading a code tract

Joshua S.: She has Soothe the Ferocious Bear, Circle of Beast Warding, Ward Against the Beasts of Legend L15.

Proclus of Rome: Leaving me with 4 copies of Scribe the Perfect Circle and 5 copies of The Significance of the Group.

Joshua S.: alredy scribed

Beatrice Orsini : i'd still have to first make my notes readable to others before they're scribed

johns (GM): here's my (out of date) list of all spells known to all covenant members: http://ars-badgame-ii.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_List

I assume all the Magi are coming, any companions want to come along too? It's okay to have multiple characters though they might get limited screentime

Voda: I'm worried about what will happen at the covenant with all the Magi gone so I'm coming.

c'thinker: this is in Venice, right

Archibald of Guernicus: Zita will be coming along, since she's needed at the case against the merinita who was interfering.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: venezia

Aristocritus Bonisagi: I am mad. I'm melting down.

Joshua S.: lol

Archibald of Guernicus: Not all magi are coming. Are they? Is every single player here?

Joshua S.: aleseta is going

Archibald of Guernicus: This might be unprecedented

Beatrice Orsini : devil's favorite demon is not

Malachiasz of Tytalus: bonfilia will have to be informed of the events when she returns

Beatrice Orsini : we were so close

Aristocritus Bonisagi: rest in peace Lodewig.

Archibald of Guernicus: Oh. Oh god we left Prudenzio in charge of the covenant.

Beatrice Orsini : lol

johns (GM): with so many players I sometimes forget how many we have :/

Proclus of Rome: It's a blessing... and a curse.

johns (GM): Venice!!!!!!

Aristocritus Bonisagi spits

johns (GM): A city built in a swamp

Proclus of Rome: Wow!

Never seen that before.

Beatrice Orsini : it is so much unlike home

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I appreciate the swamp.

Proclus of Rome: Oh wow we have a pretty good location.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: WANTED

johns (GM): And yet the air is cleaner than Rome's with a refreshing sea breeze blowing the urban stink away

Proclus of Rome: Right next to the Doge's Palace.

Beatrice Orsini : i have enough imaginem i should get around to inventing an air freshener spell

johns (GM): Each covenant maintains a chapterhouse here that is much more opulent than their homes. It's not unusual for a magi from any given covenant to be here at any time, enjoying the luxury of the town over their own home

(From Ferris of Bonisagus): sorry, having internet problems, Ferris is here

(To Ferris of Bonisagus): Hail Ferris

Aristocritus Bonisagi: Chamber of Spring Breezes crew

Beatrice Orsini : oh no, i'm not making the air fresh

i'm just making it seem like it

johns (GM): Your own chapterhouse is a fine one, nicer than any of your labs, but feels a bit cramped as a dozen travelers cram into it

Proclus of Rome: Does Venice have as big a Faerie problem as Rome?

johns (GM): Nah they genocided them all ages ago

Aleseta of Bonisagus: rip

Beatrice Orsini : oh no

johns (GM): Tending to your needs is Marcus the caretaker and his wife. Already settled in is Venator, looking a bit tanned

Venator ex Misc: "Hail, Sodales. How have you been?"

Proclus of Rome: Exquisitely tanned and coiffed Venator explains why we need to stay out of the Catacombs.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Oh, fine, fine. Thank you."

Proclus of Rome: "I'm surprised to see you here."

Venator ex Misc: "You are?"

Ferris of Bonisagus: "Personally I thought you were lost to travels."

Venator ex Misc: He strokes his beard thoughtfully.

Proclus of Rome: "What he said."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "Don't worry. They may not have read your letter, but they stayed out of your sanctum."

Venator ex Misc: "I was at Durenmar. I thought you could handle yourselves in my absence and did not wish to seem overbearing, even if I kept an eye on you from afar."

Aleseta of Bonisagus raises her eyebrow Bonisagishly at this.

Archibald of Guernicus: I wonder if it'd be appropriate to ask him where he dumped Bonfilia's corpse.

Proclus of Rome: Go for it.

Aristocritus Bonisagi raises the opposite eyebrow, Trianomishly

Beatrice Orsini : He put it to work.

Venator ex Misc: "We seem to have a new member here," he says to your maimed giant.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Aye! Malachiasz of Tytalus! It is a pleasure to meet you my friend."

Venator ex Misc: "I have a good feeling about this one. I'm sure he'll fit right in."

Archibald of Guernicus: "By the way, whatever happened to Bonfilia? Ye took her away, didn't hear about her being marched or anything."

Proclus of Rome: "He'll have to stoop a little but it should be fine."

Venator ex Misc: "Oh, her? I let her leave with a handful of vis and let her know the repercussions if she ever re-entered the Roman tribunal."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: Fistful of Vis

Archibald of Guernicus: "Yeah, rip."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: oh thats a good point, maybe i could make a perdo terram spell so i never have to hunch in buildings

at least ones with stone ceilings

Venator ex Misc: perpetual touch range spell

just keep knocking holes into every door your walk through

Proclus of Rome: That seems like a dangerous idea.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: muto corpus to shrink yourself down to size -2

Archibald of Guernicus: It's particularly dangerous as your lab is right below Proclus'.

Ferris of Bonisagus: Or an enchanted item to shrink you while you wear it.

Beatrice Orsini : sit down on chair and let grogs carry you around

Aleseta of Bonisagus: a minish cap

Malachiasz of Tytalus: that would be far too considerate of other peoples property

Aristocritus Bonisagi: enchanted hat with a ward that violently repels bricks, lumber, stone, etc

Ferris of Bonisagus: How much do you weigh?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: radius 5 paces

Malachiasz of Tytalus: i dont think i worked that out

giant is what, about 8 feet tall?

Proclus of Rome: In general I wouldn't wear something like that where there are a lot of labs and sanctums.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: probably around 400 pounds at least

Venator ex Misc: fbom (fat boys of magic)

Beatrice Orsini : i have to finally add diminutive to my lab, so you can complain that it's a lab for ants when you come to visit

Archibald of Guernicus: I have the fat boy of magic trait.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Aristocritus Bonisagi: polish magus complains at length about the racial diversity of your tiny lab

Malachiasz of Tytalus: terram spell that makes it so that i dont have to walk

Venator ex Misc: "While I've been here, I've heard about a few of the issues that will be up for debate-- maybe you have some opinions on them --"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: dirt and stone just propel me forward at walking speed

Archibald of Guernicus: You could get a good corpus bonus by keeping skulls and examining their shapes.

Proclus of Rome: "I have opinions about many things."

Venator ex Misc: "Magvillus is trying to outlaw Roman tribunal members from raiding the Normandy tribunal (part of Normandy's own customs)."

Proclus of Rome: "I wasn't aware that the Normand Tribunal still existed."

Archibald of Guernicus: "They're a lawless pit, last I heard."

Venator ex Misc: "There is still France, and still Magi who live there and relish their 'freedom.'"

Archibald of Guernicus: "Nae respect for quaesitors and that's how ye end up. We should erect a magic barrier and make them pay for the vis."

Venator ex Misc: lmao

Aristocritus Bonisagi: lol

Proclus of Rome: "The common courtesy to pay the local covenant a visit when you pass through is all that should be necessary."

Beatrice Orsini : "When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in Normandy, raid like a Norman."

Ferris of Bonisagus: "Why is the Normandy tribunal only trying to prevent Roman magus?"

Proclus of Rome: "What other covenants are supporting Magvillus?"

Magvillus is a Roman covenant.

Archibald of Guernicus: Yeah, they're trying to stop people stooping to petty crime the moment they cross the border.

Venator ex Misc: "It's not the Normandy tribunal here. They've allowed raiding since even before they fell apart, and neighboring tribunals have always taken advantage of it... Magvillus finds it pretty undignified."

Proclus of Rome: So they're trying to stop us from raiding Normandy even though Normans feel free to raid wherever they please.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "I suppose they would need to pass it in the Roman Tribunal. A binding across all of Europe would require a resolution at the Grand Tribunal in Durenmar."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: we should go raid them

Ferris of Bonisagus: Preemptive raid

Venator ex Misc: "Proclus, I hear Harco and Potestas-- that's the Tremere covenant-- back it. The motion would need 2 more votes, probably yours and Literatus."

Archibald of Guernicus: "It is undignified, ye can't have them running around like it's a wizards war on everyone."

Proclus of Rome: "Don't you mean, 'Ours?'"

Venator ex Misc shrugs

Aristocritus Bonisagi: ex miscellanishly

Venator ex Misc: "I won't be around forever, so the future of the covenant is up to you."

Beatrice Orsini : a magus admitting that he's mortal?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "Which covenants are doing the raiding?"

Proclus of Rome: Don't you know about the problems with the Longevity Ritual?

Someone's doing the raiding.

Venator ex Misc: "Luctatio (the Tytalans) and Rellantali are the biggest culprits."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: brb

Proclus of Rome: Hmm.

Beatrice Orsini : sounds like magvillus is just jealous they're too far from normandy to do their own raiding

Malachiasz of Tytalus: raids tytalishly

Venator ex Misc: hey raiding could be a future adventure assuming it is not banned. who knows

Aristocritus Bonisagi: magvillus is the dang domus magna of the quaesitores!

Venator ex Misc: so?

Beatrice Orsini : looks like they're just trying to make more things illegal to increase their own power

Aristocritus Bonisagi: if anyone is going to be sincerely upset about raiding it's them

Archibald of Guernicus: I'm voting to make raiding illegal.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: im not

Proclus of Rome: I think we should also do that.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: same

Beatrice Orsini : i'm not

Proclus of Rome: Normandy has enough problems without suffering raids.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "A small bit of raiding never hurt anyone."

Venator ex Misc: As a reminder, your covenant casts one collective vote in these issues, so its up to you decide internally

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Important."

Archibald of Guernicus: We're too far to even raid, even if you want to be pragmatic about it. We'd be helping out a gaggle of tytalans.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: oh no

Archibald of Guernicus: No offence to our new friend.

Venator ex Misc: "If a single vote per covenant sounds strange, just remember it's worked this long, and is far better than what goes in in the Rhine, Transylvania, or (yeesh) Normandy."

Proclus of Rome: While I don't hold any ill-will towards Luctatio, I don't believe in raiding.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Perhaps we should debate the positive and negative aspects of legal raiding."

Proclus of Rome: Well, isn't that what we're doing?

Venator ex Misc bangs fork and knife on table "DISPUTATIO, DISPUTATIO"

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Beatrice Orsini : "If Normandy minds the raids, they should ban it themselves. Maybe an attempt to make it illegal will make Normandy organize again."

Proclus of Rome: "Normandy is in no position to do anything. We need to be the ones to act."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Agreed."

Beatrice Orsini : "Will it stop other Tribunals from raiding in Normandy?"

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "We have to oppose the Tytalans. They'll love it."

Ferris of Bonisagus: "We are just asking them to not to do something in the future."

Beatrice Orsini : oppose through competitions

Proclus of Rome: "No, that would require a Grand Tribunal, Beatrice."

Beatrice Orsini : "Exactly."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "A ruling here will not, but it could lend support to a resolution that binds the Order at Durenmar."

Beatrice Orsini : "This is a matter for the Grand Tribunal."

Proclus of Rome: "It's up to us to set an example."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Again, I agree with Proclus."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Aye, and that gaggle of miscreants strip Normandy bare while we await the Grand Tribunal? Not a chance."

"We should vote to make it illegal."

Beatrice Orsini : "That will happen anyway."

"It will just be miscreants from other tribunals."

"A ban on raiding from Roman Tribunal is not going to help Normandy."

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): do other tribunals ban raiding in normandy

Proclus of Rome: "I doubt the other tribunals will raid more."

"After all, they can already do it as much as they want."

(To Aristocritus Bonisagi): No. Provencal famously raids a lot

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): i have 4 ooh lore and code. if that matters

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): dang

Beatrice Orsini : "They will want to do as much raiding as possible before raiding is possibly forbidden by a Grand Tribunal."

Archibald of Guernicus: "It'll also make it clear to those in Normandy just who they can trust in future."

Beatrice Orsini : "A ban in Rome is a clear signal for proposal at Grand Tribunal."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Surely the Normans would rather deal with one less tribunal than all of their neighbors!"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "They should learn to trust themselves and stop the raids of their own accord."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Politically, we stand to gain from banning it, and unless ye're all planning a seasonal raid, we get nothing from voting against the ban."

Proclus of Rome: "That doesn't seem likely."

"That does bring up an interesting point. We could always sell our vote on this or any other issue."

"Not that I'd ever do such a thing."

Aleseta of Bonisagus frowns at the suggestion.

Venator ex Misc:

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.96844397.1893/flat,800x800,070,f.jpg

oops sorry that's hate speech now

Archibald of Guernicus: "On an unimportant issue where we have no stance, aye maybe."

"But things seem clearcut here."

Beatrice Orsini : "Not banning the rading focuses Tytalan attention outside the Roman Tribunal."

"Saying we can only gain politically from the ban is a mistake."

Proclus of Rome: "It isn't like we don't have to deal with Tytalan troublemakers in Rome as things are."

Archibald of Guernicus: "We won't have any trouble with 'em, we've got one of their own at our covenant now."

Venator ex Misc: hell you let one into the covenant!

Archibald of Guernicus: I pat Mally on the back.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Aye, Tytalus is the finest house a magi could join."

magus

fuck!!

Archibald of Guernicus: I tug my collar

Beatrice Orsini : "Archibald, you have been very confident in your safety ever since you immured yourself."

Archibald of Guernicus: "A necessary precaution after ye all allowed the raiding of one of our sodales labs."

Proclus of Rome: "Bonfillia was no friend of anyone."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Be that as it may,"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "So labs can be raided, but Normandy is out of the question? I cannot approve of these double standards."

Venator ex Misc: would that it t'were so simple

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Archibald of Guernicus: Choice ref.

Ferris of Bonisagus: "She was kicked out of the covenant, and it was covenant property."

Archibald of Guernicus: "We didnae know at that point."

c'thinker: "This doesn't seem to be going anywhere. What other issues will be coming before the Tribunal?"

fuck!!

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "This doesn't seem to be going anywhere. What other issues will be coming before the Tribunal?"

Proclus of Rome: "Once you disappear from Rome, it's unlikely that you're going to come back."

"No offense."

Venator ex Misc: "There's a pretty uncontroversial motion by Luctatio to claim all vis sources in Lake Garda and the Faerie Court within.."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "A fine idea."

Archibald of Guernicus: Wait a minute, that vis

Venator ex Misc: marked here on the map as "Sirmione"

Archibald of Guernicus: That's our damn vis isn't it

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "That should be our vis!"

Archibald of Guernicus: "The thieving rat!"

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "We won it!"

Beatrice Orsini : "Ah, now I get it."

Proclus of Rome: "Well, we were tricked into competing for it by Klybutes."

"I think we should support the motion."

Venator ex Misc: "Well.. They are closer, and were there before you, though-- and I hear this is a bit of embarassment to that lady Maga-- never thought to claim it formally."

Beatrice Orsini : "They'll withdraw the motion if we vote against the raiding ban, I'm sure."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: klybutes!!

Proclus of Rome: "After all, we've suffered the same thingwith our Auram vis source."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "Or, the other way around -- maybe if we let them have their lake they'll back down on the raiding issue."

Venator ex Misc: "You'd have to so some hard bargaining to win other covenant's votes, if you think it worth it."

Beatrice Orsini : "The other covenants will support the motion, to soften the blow of banning raids into Normandy."

"Tytalans thrive on adversity, but other Houses don't necessarily want to be their adversary."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Loathe as I am to give up OUR vis, the banning on raids is more important tae the tribunal at large."

Proclus of Rome: "If Luctatio doesn't claim the Lake Garda vis, then surely everyone else will go and compete for it. We couldn't even guarantee that we'd win every year."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Could one of us duel for it?"

Archibald of Guernicus: "What, certamen? Do we have anyone actually skilled at the thing."

Proclus of Rome: "While I'm sure the faerie court would love all that attention, I'm happy to let Luctatio continue to humor them with a fake competition."

Aleseta of Bonisagus shrugs.

Beatrice Orsini : "Of course, there is another possible solution."

Venator ex Misc: "It  would  be shameful for them to turn down a proper duel..."

Beatrice Orsini : "Ask Magvillus for support in our legal disputes in exchange for the ban vote."

Ferris of Bonisagus: "I don't know who we could send to a duel."

Venator ex Misc: never a Tremere around when you need one

Beatrice Orsini : "Then give up the vis to Luctatio, if we can't hold it for ourselves."

i have high presence, but bad arts all around

except for imaginem

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "We all have the capability to duel. But who has the best Arts?"

Beatrice Orsini : i only have 2 arts of 10 and higher

Proclus of Rome: "My lowest art is Auram, at 3."

Venator ex Misc: hey rope kid, for Certamen, do you think we should use all ability scores as they are (since both sides will be boosted that way) or halve 'em?

Aleseta of Bonisagus has 5-6 scores at 5 or 6, a few at 8-10, one at 12

Venator ex Misc: the abilities being pen, concentration etc

Archibald of Guernicus: "Didn't some of ye want to bring a case against some Merinita who was diddling a noblewoman?"

Proclus of Rome: "BUT, I think that we should give Lucatatio their vis."

Beatrice Orsini : one at 13, one at 10

Aleseta of Bonisagus: i believe i used the scores as is (last time) and increased the results ranges

Beatrice Orsini : "If we vote for the ban, we should."

"But."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: i.e. to get a fatigue level, you need to have a bigger margin of success.

Beatrice Orsini : "Even if we plan to vote for the ban, we shouldn't mae it public."

Venator ex Misc: Cool, that's simple

Aleseta of Bonisagus: but it may make more sense to halve those values

Beatrice Orsini : "Sell the vote we're planning to make anyway."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: since it makes them kind of more important in the overall calculation

Archibald of Guernicus: "I suppose we are undecided. If that'll get ye on board with the ban, so be it."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Shame to see a good raiding banned so soon."

Archibald of Guernicus: "If ye want to claim stuff in a raid, there's Ponza."

Venator ex Misc: hell yeah

Beatrice Orsini : "We are too far to raid anyway."

Venator ex Misc: did you recap that for beardbeard?

Archibald of Guernicus: We're sitting on mumble and I'm telling him now

Venator ex Misc: lol cool

Beatrice Orsini : "Think of it this way,, Malachiasz. You're helping your Tytalan brothers by giving them new challenges after the old ones have grown stale."

Ferris of Bonisagus: Beard beard?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: thats me

Venator ex Misc: Our newest player, Beardbeard the Bold

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "Everybody wins."

Ferris of Bonisagus: Ah.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: star civ4 player

Venator ex Misc: Ah he only introduced his Magus last sessionw hen you were absent Darvin

Aristocritus Bonisagi: except rellantali. what's rellantali's deal anyway

Beatrice Orsini : they're on an island so they're probably pirates by nature

Venator ex Misc: Rellantali is a mixed covenant of different folk like yourselves with their own agendas

Aleseta of Bonisagus: naughty by nature

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "I suppose, but if they would sink into something so easy it barely can be called a conflict, that's a black mark on them."

Beatrice Orsini : i don't know what it is with island people being obsessed with crime

whether causing it or preventing it

Venator ex Misc: one man's crime is another man's culture

Beatrice Orsini : sadly, roman cultural exchange program with normandy is in danger of being banned

Venator ex Misc: "There's one other motion of note, that's gotten many talking. Rellantali has been sponsoring the patronage of a Bonisagus Magus and his friends who have set up in Mount Etna, and now Rellantali wants the tribunal to give them full rights and status of a Covenant.

This would be the first new covenant in 300 years in the Roman tribunal, if it passed, which I doubt. But the vote also serves as a test of everyone's attitudes to change."

Archibald of Guernicus: How close is Mount Etna to us?

Venator ex Misc: Sicily

Archibald of Guernicus: Mount Etna? Don't mind if I do. YCS.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Is it a covenant solely of Bonisagus?"

Archibald of Guernicus: I shudder at the thought

Aleseta of Bonisagus: mm haha

Ferris of Bonisagus: Change is always bad.

Venator ex Misc: "Yes, they being the only ones dedicated enough to set up inside an active volcano."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Allow it."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: bonisagi... ftw

Beatrice Orsini : the volcano hermetic project is cool so they should be allowed

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Are there any vagrant Tremere around? We should try to send them over there."

Beatrice Orsini : also, i could do some trading with bonisagi-only volcano covenant

Archibald of Guernicus: "Is Rellantali trying to push for it by offering tae pay for votes?"

Beatrice Orsini : fire duration spells are good in volcanoes

Venator ex Misc: "It wouldn't surprise me Archibald, but you'd have to bargain with them directly."

"Verdi will likely oppose it as strongly as Rellantali pushes for it."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "Do you know if the Tenens is going to be here?"

(To Archibald of Guernicus): What is the Tenens?

Archibald of Guernicus: "Ah, it'll be just like the auction. Except this time we're the item for sale."

(To Aristocritus Bonisagi): What is the Tenens?

Archibald of Guernicus: "Let's hope they bid high."

Beatrice Orsini : "What does Verdi want from this tribunal?"

"They have to want something."

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): basically the trianoma agent in charge of the area, but the roman tenens also has to deal with the rhine and alps tribunals

Endrite: Sorry I was AFK for a minute there.

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): true lineages page 12

(To Aristocritus Bonisagi): Yes, his name is Julius, of Rellantali Covenant

Venator ex Misc: "Not sure, you'll have to ask them directly. People will be gathering at the tribunal site so we can head there whenever you like."

Proclus of Rome: "I think having a vigorous covenant in Sicily could only be a good thing, especially with all the pirates."

Beatrice Orsini : "Of course, Magvillus might not want a new covenant in their backyard."

Proclus of Rome: "I don't know why they'd want to live in a volcano though."

Venator ex Misc: "It's a powerful Magic aura, the kind that are rarer and rarer these days."

Archibald of Guernicus: "If they're being pushed by Rellantali, it might be seen as a bid for power by them."

Beatrice Orsini : "Volcanos are an excellent place to study Ignem."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Another covenant means another vote, potentially."

Proclus of Rome: "Why don't they just make their own powerful aura?"

Venator ex Misc: "Not all are blessed as you are, Proclus."

Beatrice Orsini : "Rellantali will probably also want something to soften the raiding ban."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: pull themselves up by their aurastraps

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "They should study more Terram-like forms. For example, Terram."

"They will never be more learned than me, but it's the effort that really counts."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Lava is rocks, that's terram."

Beatrice Orsini : Is everyone planning on increasing Terram?

Proclus of Rome: "It's liquid fire, obviously."

Archibald of Guernicus: I have a higher Terram than him already

Aristocritus Bonisagi: what's your terram

Archibald of Guernicus: "I read about it, it cools into rocks when it settles. Fire doesnae become rocks, don't be daft."

Venator ex Misc: Who's ready to meet a million new characters

Proclus of Rome: Lacrima et Compositio was basically our only Art book for a long time.

Venator ex Misc: who are now all in your journal. enjoy

Aleseta of Bonisagus: welcome

Archibald of Guernicus: Galafre the Elder is here, good shit

Proclus of Rome: Oh hey Klybutes what up?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: Klybutes is trying a new look

Malachiasz of Tytalus: nvidia of merinita

Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice specs anson

Archibald of Guernicus: Enki, my main man [20 second long fistbump]

Beatrice Orsini : i'm glad eyeglasses are now officialy invented

Venator ex Misc: ty blessed Roger Bacon

Beatrice Orsini : we should go beat up his corpse for old times' sake

Venator ex Misc: lol

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Aristocritus Bonisagi: who was Galafre again

Proclus of Rome: He's the Montcuq guy.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: oh, i wasn't there

Venator ex Misc: for new players: last Saga had a Roger Bacon cameo, in which the players got in a fight with him as he flung vials of acid at them

Proclus of Rome: A popular fighting style.

Beatrice Orsini : Ars Magica: You're in combat with Roger Bacon

Archibald of Guernicus: Was Aurora a former PC

I vaguely remember reading it in the ars thread before

Beatrice Orsini : she might be another aurora of mercere

Milo of Guernicus: Could be, could be.

Archibald of Guernicus: Oh it really is BRs magus. She killed the unkillable god wizard. I'm honoured to meet her.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: every player character from the previous saga comes in for a HUGE wizard war

Milo of Guernicus: she does indeed have a reputation for magical murder

Proclus of Rome: I have to give Sansaron credit for just sending a grog to the Tribunal.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: oh damn aurora

Aristocritus Bonisagi: Sansaron is the covenant that doesn't participate in tribunals, right

Beatrice Orsini : sansaron will get grog loyalty penalty for cruel and unusual punishment

Vardian's Tomb: "A representative from Sansaron-- unusual, they never bother before. Not a wizard but still worth noting."

(venator said that)

johns (GM): The reactions you get are: A friendly greeting from Andronicus, a friendly knowing nod from Enki, a sneer from Heliste, a neutral nod from Marco, and mild curiosity from the rest

Then Milo approaches you with Galafre in tow. "Welcome Sodales. Should we try to adjudicate this little mess we've got here?"

Proclus of Rome: We see Klybutes enough that there's no need to exchange pleasantrie, I guess.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "What's the mess?"

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i should say hello to klybutes probably.

johns (GM): He gives you a big ol' leper hug

Proclus of Rome: "Galafre the Elder is responsible for ruining our reputation in Montcuq with his bizarre and pointless rape of the lady Gracia St. Duane."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: the whole vis thing with milo is long-resolved, right

Archibald of Guernicus: "Oh aye. The cuckolder."

Milo of Guernicus: Yes, Venator dueled him back in 1317 and got it sorted out

Aristocritus Bonisagi: whew

Milo of Guernicus: "Mmhmm, mmhmm. So noted. Shall we try to resolve this in conference before dragging it out to trial in front of the whole tribunal?"

Aristocritus Bonisagi: 1317. i remember it like it was only this morning

Archibald of Guernicus: I wasn't even gauntleted then

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "What needs to be resolved?"

Aristocritus Bonisagi: brb

Aristocritus Bonisagi has a nondescript chat with the Tytalans

Archibald of Guernicus: I should switch to my companion. Actually she should be taking part in this discussion since she technically has a vote.

Proclus of Rome: "He committed a crime."

Galafre the Elder: "I've a  right  to argue in my defense."

Zita of Mercere: "And he messed with my head with careless use of magic."

Galafre the Elder: "Self defense."

Proclus of Rome: "If you present your case as well as you did in Montcuq you'll be Marched before lunch."

Zita of Mercere: "What, on those gates?"

Beatrice Orsini : "The enchantment you laid on the gates was no self-defense."

Galafre the Elder: "Oh.."

"Those? Harmless."

"How was I to know a redcap would wander through? There's no covenants or vis there, after all."

Proclus of Rome: "How could you be so careless that you didn't even think to ask us before you wasted time and vis tormenting Montcuq?"

Galafre the Elder: "Do you claim all cities within 1,000 leagues of Rome now?"

Beatrice Orsini : "It is at the very least polite to visit the covenant nearest to your experiment site."

Zita of Mercere: "If you'd made your actions known to the order, you wouldn't have accidentally hit a redcap, would you?"

"You were being secretive because you knew it was illegal."

Milo of Guernicus: "What sort of restitution are you seeking, Zita?"

Zita of Mercere: "Well, an apology wouldn't hurt."

"... Or an enchanted device to aid in my work."

Proclus of Rome: You should demand restitution.

Beatrice Orsini : You should not.

Zita of Mercere: I thought we were grabbing some legal counsel from magvillius for helping their legislation? A good lawyer and we could take this guy to the cleaners.

Milo of Guernicus: Want to spend vis on hiring one?

Zita of Mercere: He did rape Zita's friend, too. That's good enough reason to take him for all he's got.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: what do we get if we win?

Beatrice Orsini : True. But my major personality flaw is compassionate, so I believe his vis being wasted is enough punishment for him.

Milo of Guernicus: Anyone got Code of Hermes, to answer aleseta's question?

Proclus of Rome: Maybe you should have some compassion for the Lady Gracia St. Duane.

Beatrice Orsini : I helped solve her problem.

Ferris of Bonisagus: I keep meaning to read some Hermes books...

Proclus of Rome: I have Code of Hermes +1.

Milo of Guernicus: Hell, give it a roll

Proclus of Rome: Making me the most learned legal scholar in Vardian's Tomb.

rolling 1d10 + 2 + 1

(

10

)

+2+1

=

13

Aleseta of Bonisagus:

rolling d10+2+2 CoH

(

4

)

+2+2

=

8

Milo of Guernicus: Nice.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i have code +4

Aleseta of Bonisagus: fart

Archibald of Guernicus:

rolling 1d10+2+6

(

3

)

+2+6

=

11

I conf it. I won't let him outdo me.

Proclus of Rome: It's fine.

Not everyone can be an expert in every area of the law.

Ferris of Bonisagus: Did we change conf to be +1 and we have more of them?

Archibald of Guernicus: God no.

Proclus of Rome: I'm just especially interested in this case and Mundane Interference.

Milo of Guernicus: In conference: You can get whatever reward you can bargain from Galafre if he is willing to please. If it goes to trial: You can get Damages, including cost of bringing the case, if you win. which Proclus estimates would be about a year of labor and a bit of vis.

I mean, Archibald estimates

Cause he's smarter

Archibald of Guernicus: Damn right.

Milo of Guernicus: Also if it goes to trial then it becomes a vote by the other covenants, and there is a possibility you could lose and get Nothing.

Proclus of Rome: Pride is the most dangerous sin of all.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: you should take it to trial

Archibald of Guernicus: Mercere is based here, they'd vote in favour of not performing mind-altering experiments on entire towns that redcaps could pass through.

Beatrice Orsini : We should let him go off with an apology.

Proclus of Rome: He wasn't interested in an apology when he was in Montcuq.

Beatrice Orsini : But now he's in actual trouble and needs help.

Proclus of Rome: If the only reason he gives one now is because he's in front of the Tribunal then what could it mean?

Zita of Mercere: I'll make use of this legal knowledge.

Beatrice Orsini : That he had time to reflect and realize he done wrong.

Zita of Mercere: "You harmed a friend of mine very deeply, and there's definetely enough legal precedent here to make things very uncomfortable for you at trial."

Is there a social skill for browbeating someone or is it just Charm for all social stuff

Proclus of Rome: We really have two charges here, Assault for Zita and Mundane Interference for what he did to everyone in Montcuq.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: Leadership

Leadership is used for intimidation

Zita of Mercere: In that case, I'll take the nice road so I can actually use charm.

"If it went to trial, with both Mercere and Guernicus up to vote on the outcome of irresponsible use of magic interfering with mundanes and a redcap, it could be a severe loss of face, and property."

Proclus of Rome: Excuse me, the concept of "face" can only be understood by the inscrutable oriental.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: the untranslateable Italian concept of

Galafre the Elder: lol

(To Zita of Mercere): Would you like to roll charm on top of that?

Zita of Mercere: "But, if you were to apologise, and really mean it, and say... offer an enchanted item to aid in said grievances to the afflicted redcap - of sufficient value of course - then an ugly trial could be avoided and we'll know you're truly sorry for what you did."

I'll roll charm, is it always presence with charm? When is it pre and when is it com.

Galafre the Elder: Presence for first impressions and comm for everything else, imo

Zita of Mercere: We met before, I'd say com

Aleseta of Bonisagus: the maceratan jesuit matteo ricci understood the concept of face very well btw.

Zita of Mercere: I didn't mean to make an anachronism. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

Galafre the Elder: well yes, because he visited china

Zita of Mercere:

rolling 1d10+2+7

(

5

)

+2+7

=

14

Galafre the Elder: Galafre clears his throat. "What sort of item are you after, then?'

Zita of Mercere: "Oh, anything to aid in delivering messages safely, recovering lost property, that sort of thing."

Galafre the Elder: "And if I accept, this whole thing is done and buried? You won't drag my name through the mud?"

Zita of Mercere: "Yes, that'll be the end of it."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: matteo ricci entered the faerie regio on the edge of the world and was warped so badly that he came out understanding the concept of "face"

Zita of Mercere: Alright. Enough. This has gone on too far.

Galafre the Elder: ty for correcting the erroneous concept that the Orient actually exists

Proclus of Rome: It can't be helped.

Zita of Mercere: Someone needs to mention potatoes and shift the focus of scorn away from me.

Galafre the Elder: Galafre nods. "Fine... We'll settle it here."

Zita of Mercere: "Glad to see you're showing some penitence. Good christian quality, I hear."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: This pizza is really great, Klybutes, what did you make this weird red sauce out of

Zita of Mercere: Is the noble tomato really not native to italy?

Proclus of Rome: The what?

Zita of Mercere: I feel like everything I knew was a lie

johns (GM): lol who's doodling the mustaches

Proclus of Rome: Wow who would do such a thing?

johns (GM): Ok-- no trial-- Zita will get some enchanted item, tbd

Zita of Mercere: It's Free Enchanted Items

Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice

Proclus of Rome: Is this really justice?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: Yes.

johns (GM): Galafre has a quick word with Invidia before fucking off back to his home in the Provencal tribunal

Zita of Mercere: Well yes, because if he doesnt pay up I can, as a redcap, legally raid his lab

Malachiasz of Tytalus: raid. raid. raid.

Proclus of Rome: You can raid his lab anyway if you hurry.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: invidia: the way it's meant to be resolved.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: luckily i came prepared and already have facial hair

One step ahead.

no. no!

johns (GM): lol

Archibald of Guernicus: Beardbeard wants to steal this card from your hand!

johns (GM): what a rascal

Proclus of Rome: Beardbeard trying to steal a beard.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: card stealing is cool because i cant ever imagine a situation in which it would be useful

Proclus of Rome: It allows a card to pass to another player.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: ok i guess yeah

but you could also just throw it on the map

there should just be a give this card away option!!

johns (GM): Aristocritus, what sort of business did you want to discuss with the Tenens?

you can click drag cards onto the map

Malachiasz of Tytalus: the gauntlet has been thrown

Proclus of Rome: Tenens?

johns (GM): Special Trianoma Business

Proclus of Rome: Oh.

Just tell them that all your schemes have turned out just as you planned.

johns (GM): Okay, for the rest of you, Andronicus of Literatus approaches

"Hail Sodales and well met. I hear you've been making a real splash around Rome. Not afraid to let the mundanes know who you are?"

Aleseta of Bonisagus shrugs.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "As a proud member of house Tytalus, everyone, mortal or no, should know my name."

Proclus of Rome: I see that you've been rome_covenant_reputation >= 4 around Rome!

Archibald of Guernicus: Lmao

Proclus of Rome: "Should we be?"

Aristocritus Bonisagi: you have the hands of an Imaginem specialist

Beatrice Orsini : thank you

Andronicus of Jerbiton: You smell like death. Have you been Major Magical Focus: Necromancy ?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: lmao

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Not everyone takes kindly to powerful people running about free of all bonds to mundane society. The Contis for instance... Were you aware they have a spy in your covenant?"

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Ferris of Bonisagus: "And who would that be?"

Proclus of Rome: "Oh, you mean Merlin?"

That bird has got to be dead by now.

Andronicus of Jerbiton: birds live longer than people in Ars Magica

Aristocritus Bonisagi: birds live to 900 or something

Andronicus of Jerbiton: Andronicus shrugs innocently. "If I knew I'd tell you, I'm not cruel. I could pry further but it'd risk a good agent of mine."

Proclus of Rome: "What good would spying on us do?"

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "There's a lot of scholarly people and nobles around Italy who think they know a bit about our Order. We prefer to keep them mixed up with lots of disinformation. It's not good to let them realize what's true and what's not."

Proclus of Rome: "Surely the truth is what is best for everyone."

Andronicus of Jerbiton: He laughs then tries to stifle it

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): i just wanted to talk shop about intrigues, magic sites, hedge magi, conflicts, etc. also figure out what his angle is on the issues coming before the tribunal

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): can't hurt to get on his good side / get some information

Beatrice Orsini : "Truth often causes more hurt than avoiding the question."

Proclus of Rome: "That's a rather dim view."

(To Aristocritus Bonisagi): Some info he can give you: The Tremere have been recruiting more and more of the Nightwalker hedge magicians. Also there is a feud between Aurora and the Tremere but no one seems to know what it is.

Beatrice Orsini : "Would telling the truth help Lady Gracia?"

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "For instance, the Jerbitons had nobles convinced for ages that all Magi wear blue robes covered in stars, and are helpless if you take their staff away."

Proclus of Rome: "Well, I certainly thought so."

Archibald of Guernicus: "There's an important time and a place for bare naked truth."

Proclus of Rome: "Oh, I don't have a staff. I don't have any trouble walking."

Andronicus of Jerbiton: He lowers his voice. "If the Lords and Church knew how powerful we really were, do you think they would let us be?"

Proclus of Rome: "After seeing what Galafre got up to,maybe it would be better if people were better informed/"

Andronicus of Jerbiton: To all non-Proclus PCs: "Do you feel the same as Proclus does?"

Archibald of Guernicus: "Mundanes? Never, no."

Beatrice Orsini : Definitely not.

As an illusionist I'm addicted to lies.

Archibald of Guernicus: "The order comes first, mundane interference should be limited to keep the pricks from ruining our studies."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Truth is good. Get everything out there in the open, then settle any grievances with violence."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "I think the knowledge we possess is not easily understood and some measure of misdirection and obfuscation are necessary."

Proclus of Rome: "That's just the kind of attitude that perpetuates secrecy."

Ferris of Bonisagus: "I would prefer to be out of the mind of mundanes as much as possible."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "If they were good enough to use our knowledge they wouldn't be mundanes."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Well, that and the gift."

"They could still learn the theory, I guess."

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Everyone interferes with the mundanes here and there-- it's simply how things work in this tribunal-- but we always try to do it from a distance."

Proclus of Rome: "Like that murderer Enki?"

Archibald of Guernicus: "Personally I'd rather we didn't meet with them unless its sorting out a source of vis or getting something back that they shouldnae have."

"Good man, that Enki. Good craftsmanship on his lance."

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Enki?? He's not doing anything they don't do themselves."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Aye. Some men were born stronger or faster, why shouldn't he compete with the gifts he has, if it's all within the rules and doesn't hurt the order."

Proclus of Rome: "There's quite a bit of difference between the danger of injury with a tournament lance and the certainty of death caused by his terrifying arsenal of weaponry."

"All that mayhem just to sell weapons."

'I find it shameful."

Andronicus of Jerbiton shrugs

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "The lords are always killing each other anyway. He's just profiting off what is basically.. a force of nature."

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): AFK

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Hm, a weapon salesman."

I walk over to Enki.

Andronicus of Jerbiton: enki opens his armored trenchcoat "WHAT'RE YOU BUYIN'"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "I've heard of the quality of your weapons. I would like to commission an extremely powerful shovel."

Enki of Verditius: "You came to the right man. My typical going rate is 3 times the vis cost it takes to make the item but I can cut a deal for my allies."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Aye, I'm a member of Vardian's Tomb. What would be the cost of such a shovel?"

Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Anyway it's good to hear where you all stand. I wish you luck repelling your spy."

johns (GM): depends on the effect you want instilled

Malachiasz of Tytalus: what kinds of effects are there

Proclus of Rome: Anything.

johns (GM): Anything is possible with  Hermetic Magic

Proclus of Rome: Note: read the terms and conditions, some Limits may apply.

Archibald of Guernicus: Limits were made to be broken

With a lifetime of pained study and a disappointing ending

Malachiasz of Tytalus: ok im actually gonna need to think about this

i was gonna say a shovel that can dig up fire but thatd probably be pretty useless

Proclus of Rome: Basically you can instill any effect in an item that you want, but you're limited by your lab totals and how much vis you can stuff into it in a season.

A shovel that can dig fire is VERY doable.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: yeah but also not very useful

johns (GM): Aleseta & Proclus, what sort of Spells are you looking to trade your texts for?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: what about one that digs up secrets?? you hit a dude in the head and he starts telling the truth

Aleseta of Bonisagus: Anything Animal-related tbqh

Proclus of Rome: Trade?

I was just going to hand them out.

johns (GM): lol ok

You're definitely building a reputation here

Proclus of Rome: I'm a little worried because I don't have enough copies for everyone.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "What about... a shovel that can dig up secrets just as well as earth?"

Archibald of Guernicus: Please, please learn hermetic geometry, everyone. Look at these spells you could learn. Please someone, anyone.

Proclus of Rome: Like a shovel that allows you to talk to dirt?

Also very doable.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: no a shovel that

digs up secrets, from peoples minds

i imagine theres probably plenty of spells for making people tell the truth

Aristocritus Bonisagi: what about just a shovel that cuts through stone

that would be a powerful shovel.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: i can already do that

by turning the stone into clay

Proclus of Rome: There's Frosty Breath of the Spoken Lie, which detects any lie.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: Aleseta would also be interested in general protection/utility spells, though. Even common ones, if they aren't in our library.

Proclus of Rome: And Peering Into the Mortal Mind, which is essentially mind reading.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: yeah something like that

smack someone in the head and they spill their guts

johns (GM): just calculating some spell mags here 1 sec

Proclus of Rome: Actually learning one of those is better because then you can get a higher penetration.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: i am not going to place points in non-terram forms

what do you take me for

Proclus of Rome: Someone who is going to get bullied by certamen.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: yes

johns (GM): You're offering 30 magnitudes of spell texts. Milo is willing to trade a copy of Frosty Breath of the Spoken Lie (InMe 20). Karantis is willing to trade Beast of Miniscule Proportions (MuAn L20)

Aleseta of Bonisagus: hmm. i already have BoMP

Aristocritus Bonisagi: bless of magic caster

johns (GM): Are you interested in spells that would harm Animals? there's more of those than anything else

Proclus of Rome: What are we going to do on this cargo ship?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: actually ill just go with a shovel that can dig through stone

Proclus of Rome: BoMP

Malachiasz of Tytalus: that is at least mildly useful if i dont want to cast or if i want my useless allies to help me dig

Ferris of Bonisagus: I can turn an animal into a spider if that ever becomes useful.

Proclus of Rome: Is it a regular size spider?

That would be really useful.

johns (GM): Julius is looking to trade a copy of "Gift of the Bear's Fortitude" (adds +3 to soak) for Terram vis

Proclus of Rome:

rolling 2d7

(

3

+

6

)

=

9

rolling 1d7

(

3

)

=

3

Archibald of Guernicus: Good spell.

johns (GM): He's asking 8 pawns but you could use Bargain to barter him down

Malachiasz of Tytalus: what would be the cost of a stone digging shovel, johns

Ferris of Bonisagus: Yeah, it shrinks it down to a spider size

johns (GM): A shovel that simple Perdos Terram?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: pretty much yeah

Aleseta of Bonisagus: brb

Proclus of Rome: Alright I'm not going to give Literatus either of my lab texts and I'm not going to give Potesta a copy of Scribe the Perfect Circle.

Archibald of Guernicus: You could make that yourself, tbh

Malachiasz of Tytalus: oh can i

uhhh

Proclus of Rome: I think dice rolls are the fairest way to do it.

Yeah.

johns (GM): That's Base 3, +1 stone, +1 touch

Malachiasz of Tytalus: maybe i just wont

buy anthing

im sorry enki

Proclus of Rome: Pretty much anyone can.

Archibald of Guernicus: It'd be worthwhile buying something off him to do things you can't

Proclus of Rome: We

Archibald of Guernicus: For example things involving any art, at all, that is not Terram

Proclus of Rome: 've actually thought about just getting an Animation to do it.

johns (GM): +10 levels for unlimited use, means it's L15, 3 pawns to make, so he'd charge you 9 pawns of vis

Proclus of Rome: Seems a little small time for Enki.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: is that a lot

Proclus of Rome: It is for us.

Archibald of Guernicus: You could get the 30 lab total no problem if you're going all-in on Terram, tbh

And itd be 3 pawns

Malachiasz of Tytalus: ill just not for now if were vis short anyway

and maybe come back to him if i think of something thatd be good

johns (GM): we currently make 10 pawns of vis a year

Malachiasz of Tytalus: yikes

Archibald of Guernicus: [glances at vim vis frittered away on a magic sword]

Proclus of Rome: I don't have time to do any negotiations because I've got to spend all my time convincing people to take these Lab Texts.

johns (GM): no one's gonna turn down free stuff

Aleseta of Bonisagus: back

Proclus of Rome: Yeah but I really like explaining how great it is to get a perfect circle every time.

johns (GM): You get roped into a long conversation with Fabius about what is the most divine shape possible.

Beatrice Orsini : i'll learn the spell later

i have an idea on how to use it

Proclus of Rome: Hmm.

johns (GM): While Proclus is tied up there, Marco the redcap approaches the rest of you.

Proclus of Rome: I suppose it would HAVE to be a circle.

Marco of Mercere: "A word in private, Sodales?"

Archibald of Guernicus: "Aye?"

Proclus of Rome: Not that the triangle can't have important insights.

Fabius Ex Misc: "The form of the divine is the trinity and it would seem to reason the Triangle is the divine shape, though"

Archibald of Guernicus: Oh no. Nerds.

Proclus of Rome: "However, triangles are not necessarily similar to one another. In a sense, there is only one circle. It is, perhaps, the only object that exists on Earth as it does in the Platonic Realm."

Marco of Mercere: "I was hoping I could bother you to do a little favor. As many can attest, I am a good friend to have, and you would be doing yourself a service to help me out here.."

Fabius Ex Misc: "The angles of all triangles sum to the same amount, regardless of shape or dimensions, and are similar in that regard"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: hes going to ask us to do something unsavory

Marco of Mercere: lol

uhhhh no. not at all.

Proclus of Rome: "True, but the precise composition of angles is variable, such that there are many different types of triangles, while there is only one type of circle "

Marco of Mercere: "There's a man here in Venice who is convinced I owe him a bit of money-- a silly misunderstanding of course, though he's very persistent. Being busy tending to business here I thought, perhaps my friends at Vardian's Tomb wouldn't mind paying the fellow a visit and resolving the matter?"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Alright. We'll do it."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Have ye considered paying yet debts?"

* yer

Aleseta of Bonisagus:  image of quaesitor w/ arms crossed  Instead of Fuck the Quaesitores, have you considered following the Code?

Marco of Mercere: "Alas, if only I could waive my hands and conjure a mountain of gold as you might.."

Ferris of Bonisagus: "Why do you owe him so much?"

Beatrice Orsini : "I can disguise you as another person so that you can leave Venice unmolested."

Marco of Mercere: "I have many businesses to tend to my friends, even the best juggler cannot help but drop one ball on occasion.."

"Ah Beatrice, I have no problem myself eluding this man, though I have to consider the risk to my friends and family if I leave the matter open."

Beatrice Orsini : "I can disguise your friends and family as well."

Marco of Mercere: He shakes his head.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: cthinker hee

here

(From Aristocritus Bonisagi): Back

Proclus of Rome: Hmm, I guess Literatus can always borrow both our lab texts.

Marco of Mercere: "I can't convince you to help me in a more direct way..?

Endrite: Hello?

Marco of Mercere: ok then

he wanders off

johns (GM): An ominous message appears in the top left of your screen: "Marco will remember this."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Aristocritus Bonisagi: lol

who's winning the geometry argument, though

johns (GM): Okay, before getting into the main vote stuff, were there other things anyone else wanted to do here. Folks to talk to or things to scheme

Proclus of Rome: It isn't an argument, it's a friendly discussion.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: right. who's winning

Aleseta of Bonisagus: Did anyone offer any other Animal-related or general purpose Good Shit lab texts?

johns (GM): You had an offer for Frosty Breath of the Spoken Lie

Archibald of Guernicus: He wanted us to murder a debtor, so I was pretending I didnt hear him ask.

johns (GM): also johns (GM): Julius is looking to trade a copy of "Gift of the Bear's Fortitude" (adds +3 to soak) for Terram vis

Archibald of Guernicus: I definetely wasnt getting a glass of water and forgot to say

johns (GM): I'm shocked that you're suddenly Anti-Murder

Archibald of Guernicus: I'm against being paid to murder. It takes the pure and simple joy out of it.

Proclus of Rome: What about aiding your sodales?

Aleseta of Bonisagus: yeah that seems generally worthwhile. what of these does he want in exchange? (Soothe the Ferocious Bear, Circle of Beast Warding, Ward Against the Beasts of Legend L15)

Archibald of Guernicus: Alright, fine, I love murder. I was off in the toilet when he left and missed him leaving, I'll go catch the man.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: L10, L5, and L15, respectively.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I'll go too because I actually agreed to do it.

Proclus of Rome: Does anyone have a good Intrigue?

johns (GM): He'd like the latter two. "Putting together a collection for my apprentice, you see."

Ferris of Bonisagus: I have 5

Proclus of Rome: I want to know if anyone else is planning on making a move on Ponza.

Archibald of Guernicus: "Wait a second, Marco, might be able to help. Provided ye really are in a spot of bother ye shouldnae be in, ye are a member of the order. We should look out for one another."

Aleseta of Bonisagus nods and gives them to him.

Proclus of Rome: Wow are you just going to take that super diss, Aleseta?

johns (GM): for animal spells you already have most of the useful ones

Proclus of Rome: Oh yeah, need some baby texts for my baby apprentice.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: they're not high level spells.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: You're Summa Sucks

Marco of Mercere: "Whew-- for a moment I thought you Vardian's Tomb Magi were as cold as your surroundings."

Beatrice Orsini : we just haven't gotten around to enchanting a central heating yet

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Was there a specific way you wanted him killed?"

Marco of Mercere: Would you be interested in The Beast Remade, Aleseta? You could get it for your L10 lab text and 5 pawns of animal/corpus vis

"Heavens, who mentioned murder?"

Archibald of Guernicus: "Oh, er, I thought ye implied it. Well theres other methods. There's mentem, for instance."

Marco of Mercere: "So long as it's a permanent fix."

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Hmm. The Beast Remade is a fine spell. Let me check our finances..."

Archibald of Guernicus: We really need to come up with stuff to sell by next tribunal so we can get in on the vis market.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: "We have quite a bit of Animal vis, but 5 pawns is steep. Would you consider 4, so long as my sodales are helping you?"

Marco of Mercere: He bows. "Our friendship begins to pay off already."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "So where can we find this guy?"

Marco of Mercere: He gives you an address. It's a cramped city block of small alleyways and tall buildings.

Voda: "We could swim up to his house."

Marco of Mercere: It's not on the water, shockingly

Voda: "That way he wouldn't notice us."

"Oh, I thought every house was here."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: venice, jewel of the mediterranean, city of at least three houses

Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol

Ferris of Bonisagus: Ha

Aristocritus Bonisagi looks up.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "This is the place?"

johns (GM): It looks like this, basically. The guy is "Smiling Simon" and his shop is on a cross street.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Alright, so are we killing him or doing the other less enjoyable thing?"

Voda: "We should ask the beggar-man when Simon is here."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I go into the shop.

johns (GM): It's locked!

Malachiasz of Tytalus: is it night?

johns (GM): who is on this fun little excursion anyway

nah it's still day

aura is Dominion 2 btw

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i'm here apparently!

Malachiasz of Tytalus: whats the shop made of

Voda: I can't say no if someone asks me to help.

johns (GM): Wood.

Archibald of Guernicus: "We should try reasoning with the man first. Ye know, threats and such."

Voda: Not to magi anyway!

Aleseta of Bonisagus: i wish we could go back to the 13th century where no one knew what a lock was and no one even knew how to bar a damn door and if someone came to brutally torture and murder you there was nothing to be done.

Aristocritus Bonisagi presses the silent alarm

johns (GM): lmao

Voda: The Golden Age of Mythic Europe but then someone stole the gold because locks weren't invented.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: wait

s the handle of the door made of metal

johns (GM): Sure

Malachiasz of Tytalus: i think terram is metal too??

Archibald of Guernicus: It's a wooden lock.

johns (GM): It is

Voda: It is, because China isn't real.

Archibald of Guernicus: Metal, glass etc are all terram.

johns (GM): It's a lock made of pure Vim

Malachiasz of Tytalus: hang on let me look up what this spell does again

Aristocritus Bonisagi: havent we been pretty lax on material requisites for terram spells

Archibald of Guernicus: Well, they only need it when involving non-terram things, surely

johns (GM): The beggars and rabble who fill the street gawk at you.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I used Rusted Decay of Ten-Score Years on the door lock.

And break it off.

door handle rather

crack

johns (GM): Uh so

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I open the door.

johns (GM): As ropekid points out, locks in the way we think of them don't really exist

Malachiasz of Tytalus: oh

ohhhh

johns (GM): the options being: clunky padlock things, or the door is barred from the other side

Aleseta of Bonisagus: this shocks you

Voda: How can locks be real if there is no difference between inside and outside?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: there's a whole section on locks in uhh a&a maybe?

Aleseta of Bonisagus: it's true

Archibald of Guernicus: The answer is simple. Rust the hinges off.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: ok can i get at the hinges from here, using this spell

johns (GM): The door opens inwards

Voda: I know all about how to get past a door barred from inside.

It's easy, open the window.

With a rock.

johns (GM): (which is the only reason barring it would be effective...)

Which window?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: maybe its barred from the outside, johns.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: city & guild page 78

Voda: The second story window, obviously.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: okay, is the foundation of the door stone

like the floor under it

johns (GM): Yeah

Archibald of Guernicus: Perfect. Aristocritus can float up.

Voda: Don't sink the city!

Aristocritus Bonisagi: It's true.

Archibald of Guernicus: Don't stop sinking the city

johns (GM): Venice destroyed when someone accidentally puts a hole in it

Archibald of Guernicus: I need to invent the spell that destroys an entire city sometime

Just to have it

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I use Rock of Viscid Clay on the floor under the door

And dig a hole, so that I can use the rust spell on the door hinges

johns (GM): Sick

The rabble begins closing in with curiosity as this goes on

Archibald of Guernicus: "Move away, nothing to see here." I say in broken italian

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Heretic inside. Dangerous." I say in also broken Italian.

johns (GM): There's a commotion inside as Mally reaches under the door to touch the hinges. The door swings open to a well furnished living space, in which sits a fat man and his thuggish bodyguard

Voda: "Go away, I know the cops."

Smiling Simon: "How dare you! Burglar!"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: how close are they to each other

Smiling Simon: Adjacent

Malachiasz of Tytalus: "Alright Archibald. Your turn."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Ye've been, so we've heard, threatening someone we know and demanding money."

Aristocritus Bonisagi: how's the crowd acting

Smiling Simon: "My business is lawful!"

They're standing very close to you all, Aristocritus, and watching carefully.

Archibald of Guernicus: Lawful Evil. The sentence is death.

Voda: Lawful Merchant

Archibald of Guernicus: That's what I said

"Sodales, can ye keep the crowd from interfering?"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: so johns say a 9 foot deep pit were to be opened

what effect would that have in venice

Archibald of Guernicus: Please warn us before you do, we're inside too

Smiling Simon: it's not going to sink

Voda: It would start listing and the holds would fill with watar.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: it'll only sink if you're standing over one of the floats when you open the pit

Malachiasz of Tytalus: damn. i want to sink venice

Aristocritus Bonisagi: the door is just lying on the floor right

Smiling Simon: yeah

Malachiasz of Tytalus: yes, conveniently bridging a small 3 pace hole in the ground

Archibald of Guernicus: "Listen, ye just have to not bother the man anymore, that's all."

Marco should really pay his debts, though. What a buffoon.

Smiling Simon: "Smiling Simon offers a better deal: Run now and you can keep your lives."

Archibald of Guernicus: "Oh really, eh?"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: are they sitting on a stone floor as well

johns (GM): nah, wood

Malachiasz of Tytalus: FUCK

johns (GM): >:)

Archibald of Guernicus: I say quietly to Mally "Ye get his bodyguard, if he tries anything."

Malachiasz of Tytalus: what kind of weapon does the bodyguard have

johns (GM): Sord.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: fuck!!

Malachiasz of Tytalus: i shout at it and rust it too

Aristocritus Bonisagi: if only i hadn't rolled an 8 on my experiment

johns (GM): that's a voice range spell?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: sure is

Archibald of Guernicus: I cast Panic of the Trembling Heart on the happy merchant

To give him a fear, of me.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: if things are going down i'm casting lifting the dangling puppet on the bodyguard

Archibald of Guernicus: Hell yes.

johns (GM): Nice. He doesn't immediately notice, and wonders why you're shouting ath im

"No! Please!" screams the Merchant.

Archibald of Guernicus: Afterwards, while he panics, I walk up to him and loom over him

I want to pluck a hair from his head

johns (GM): Ok, the bodyguard whacks at you with his sword, which shatters.

Voda: "This is ok, we are dangerous."

Thug: "Witchcraft!"

Voda: I tell the crowd.

Archibald of Guernicus: Ah, right, I know

Wait I never took that perdo mentem spell, damnit. I might have to spont.

Aristocritus Bonisagi concentrates and lifts the bodyguard from the floor

Malachiasz of Tytalus: were up to a total of 5 spells used to threaten some mundanes

Aristocritus Bonisagi: hey, he threatened us first

Archibald of Guernicus: Okay, removing an important detail from someones memory is level 4, adding touch would be 5. I can spont that easy.

Voda: Fatiguing or non-fatiguing?

Also there's a whole crowd here.

Archibald of Guernicus: I thought you were keeping them at bay, dang.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: brb

Voda: I mean they'll remember it.

Archibald of Guernicus: Yeah.

Hm.

Voda: -Peasant Rabble will remember this.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: i can drop them all in a 9 foot pit

Archibald of Guernicus: "Ye'll be better off if ye forget any of this. If we find out rumours are spreading, well, this one'll mess you up badly."

I indicate the most dangerous man here

Aristocritus

Aristocritus Bonisagi: "It's true. Please give us some privacy."

Smiling Simon: "A greek... You're shameless, evil!"

Aristocritus Bonisagi: is malachiasz in the building or in the doorway or what, here

Archibald of Guernicus: "Speaking of not paying debts,"

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I'm in the building wishing that the floor was stone so I could pit them.

Archibald of Guernicus: "Ye should just forget about Marco. Let the man and his family have some peace."

Beatrice Orsini : if only we knew that wood is just a form of fossil stone

Malachiasz of Tytalus: I look around the shop, what manner of things does he sell?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: ok, i'm going to cast the unseen porter to hold the door in place until you're done

Smiling Simon: insurance

Malachiasz of Tytalus: lol

Archibald of Guernicus: If only he insured his door against magic

Aristocritus Bonisagi:

rolling 1d10!+6+1 concentration

(

6

)

+6+1

=

13

Smiling Simon: Simon yields and tears up his debt letter

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i assume the other spell holds

Archibald of Guernicus: "Right, let's be off."

Let's scarper, sodales

johns (GM): A daring heist

Malachiasz of Tytalus: 6 spells used, good mission

good kill

Beatrice Orsini : you really should have asked for a disguise before doing this

johns (GM): I'm losing steam so I'm thinking of cutting this a bit short, you decided on the Raiding issue, and what were you going to vote on the New Covernant issue?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: its fine were all fairly unremarkable

Aristocritus Bonisagi: hey at least vardian's tomb stopped cutting off hands.

Proclus of Rome: Why don't we just come back next week?

Beatrice Orsini : i could have made you smell like sulfur

johns (GM): or we can continue this tomorrow and once it's wrapped up, since it won't take a full session, jump right into the next adventure which will be Winter 1328

Proclus of Rome: Tomorrow?

johns (GM): next week

sorry

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i would vote yes on the new covenant

Malachiasz of Tytalus: yeah same

Proclus of Rome: Yeah that'd be fine.

Archibald of Guernicus: Alright, now to clarify the next part of this work. For the next few weeks as I sit in my lab, every morning and every evening I cast Panic of the Trembling Heart and use FFM to make it arcane connection targetting. I give him a fear of Marco each time.

Proclus of Rome: Next week is good.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: a covenant of all bonisagi living in a volcano sounds fine to me

Beatrice Orsini : yeah

Proclus of Rome: It seems a little suspicious to me but I don't see why not.

Beatrice Orsini : yes to covenant

Archibald of Guernicus: Vote yes on the volcano mages.

Ferris of Bonisagus: I would also vote for yes. Sorry for my silence, my internet has been very spotty today.

Archibald of Guernicus: Either we get new friends or a bunch of bonisagi get roasted.

It's win/win.

johns (GM): Continue next week then?

Malachiasz of Tytalus: y

johns (GM): Np Ferris, sorry you couldn't participate more

Proclus of Rome: Yeah I have a couple intrigues I want to try.

Like I want to see if anyone has heard of the Lady Gracia St. Duane.

johns (GM): Okay. Also the Winter adventure will be more adventure and less talky.

Archibald of Guernicus: We should find out about her mother

Aristocritus Bonisagi: continuing next week sounds good

Archibald of Guernicus: That's still a hanging thread

Malachiasz of Tytalus: hey johns i know it takes two seasons to set up a lab but can i be setting it up and adventuring in the same season?

Aristocritus Bonisagi: i was afk even more than usual today and didn't really flex my incredible +6 intrigue

johns (GM): indeed, good call on that

Yes

Proclus of Rome: I'd also like to discretely ask around about what happened to the rest of Vardian's Tomb before we all showed up.

Malachiasz of Tytalus: excellent

johns (GM): lol also a good idea proclus

Beatrice Orsini : i'll have to make a companion for winter 1328 adventure, since i still owe a season of work to venator

johns (GM): we'll deal with those... Next week!

Proclus of Rome: Huzzah!

johns (GM): sorry to wrap up early but that's how it goes with these late afternoon games

Aleseta of Bonisagus: back

whoops lol

Proclus of Rome: Heh.

Aleseta of Bonisagus:  comical spring noise followed by clown horn

Endrite: Well, think of some intrigues you want to do for next week, I guess.

Archibald of Guernicus: Winter 1328 for any particular reason?

Endrite: What?

No I mean at the Tribunal.

Archibald of Guernicus: Just that its 3 adventures in a year, now.

Beatrice Orsini : winter 1328 would mean three adventures in 1328

yeah

Endrite: Busy year.

Archibald of Guernicus: Yeah. Just hope it doesnt happen like that too often, or we get a situation where the people who show up to half the sessions start getting much stronger than people who play actively.

Ferris of Bonisagus: It's a year of excitement

Malachiasz of Tytalus: adventures every season

Archibald of Guernicus: I'd just play my companion twice a year, she owes 2 seasons to Mercere so I cant do it for all 4.

Aristocritus Bonisagi: two adventures per season, and no fewer. these are my terms

Ferris of Bonisagus: That seems like that would be more experience overall

Beatrice Orsini : but you can only put 5xp into one thing per adventure

Aleseta of Bonisagus: UMMMM ARE PEOPLE TOLKIEN AS THOUGH BOOKS ARE NOT THE PATH TO POWER???

Archibald of Guernicus: It would be 14-20xp per season. Hell, I'll take it.

Beatrice Orsini : only one source of xp per season

Archibald of Guernicus: They are, that was my point. We're being DENIED our rightful book learning.

I'm going to seal myself in my lab for a year in protest.

Endrite: You don't have to take adventure XP.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: endrite is correct

Beatrice Orsini : yeah, but the adventures have to be short

Aleseta of Bonisagus: as long as the adventure is not disruptive

Archibald of Guernicus: The tribunal was pretty short, actually.

Endrite: I don't think we've hand any disruptive ones.

Beatrice Orsini : or else the time spent adventuring starts eating into study time

the tribunal was in another city

travel time

Endrite: Even ones that probably should be.

Aleseta of Bonisagus: i'm advancing aleseta largely as i advanced venzi: mostly sitting alone in a room reading books/studying vis and occasionally peeking outside to say, "oh, yeah? haha sounds good."

Beatrice Orsini : which arts is the spell to draw a perfect circle and how exactly does it work?

drawing a perfect circle sounds like a good trigger for spells

Endrite: It kind of is.

Beatrice Orsini : and i'll get spells with until (condition) duration once i get spell timing

Endrite: Re(Cr)Te 4

Beatrice Orsini : nice

all arts i need

Endrite: Here's some issues with that.

It's Touch range.

Beatrice Orsini : that's ok, i'd use it for triggering other spells

Endrite: And it's just an ordinary drawing, so it's quite breakable.

Beatrice Orsini : that's also ok

the important part is the act

Endrite: The act of what?

Beatrice Orsini : drawing a perfect circle

it's something you can't really do by accident

Archibald of Guernicus: If you dont need to claim adventure xp, here is the most important question: who gets Something About Vim this autumn?

Endrite: True, true.

Can you use spellcasting as a trigger?

Beatrice Orsini : i'm thinking of combining it with durations i'll get from mystery cult

Endrite: Oh, which ones?

Beatrice Orsini : spell timing from illusion mysteries

eh the ones where it would be really worth it require a ritual spell

it's still easy enough spell to learn that i'll learn it when there's a disruptive adventure

Endrite: Sounds good.

You can also try inventing a lower level spell the same season if you have left over research capabilities.

Beatrice Orsini : yeah, but it'd have to use the same arts, wouldn't it?

also, this seems like a potentially great combination: http://puu.sh/sp7Ih/ea72ba8a01.jpg

http://puu.sh/sp7Gi/a7841a0089.png

Endrite: Yeah.

How so?

Beatrice Orsini : enchant a candlestick to prevent a candle from burning out

then key a fire duration spell to it

Endrite: Sure.

Of course it could still be snuffed.

Beatrice Orsini : yeah

Endrite: But wouldn't the spell have to be cast on the fire?

Beatrice Orsini : it can be imaginem spells

and i can do a lot with those

Endrite: Well, I'll take a look at it.

See you next week.

Beatrice Orsini : see you

Darvin (GM):

rolling 1d10 + 5

(

3

)

+5

=

8