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Hide Whispers johns (GM): Endrite, as you are statting up Ildebrando, I think you should have the honor of choosing a name for the inn BR I put last week's chatlog on the wiki so you can delete the backlog cthinker: so, if you're reading a summa and hit the max level, your summa xp are cut off immediately, right Boy R.: cool, just did and yes, you can't earn xp towards the next level cthinker: ok Boy R.: here's a serious question demanding intense deliberation: johns (GM): Ropekid said he'd be absent this week but I'm glad y'all could make it Boy R.: should i register this game as participating in Roll20Con on June 6th? johns (GM): what is roll20con Boy R.: I have no idea Prinny D. (GM): lol Boy R.: lots of people playing games simultaneously I guess anyway there's a button to click johns (GM): https://roll20con.net/ i don't recognize any of the people in the list of streamers oh Luke Crane created burning wheel and mouseguard?? Boy R.: yeah so that's what he looks like johns (GM): darvin and cthinker, let me quickly get you up to speed on what happened last week.. lavinia steered the player character to the Capocci noble family whose son was under some sort of supernatural curse, the magi showed up, impressed the guy, and eventually tracked down Klybutes of Tytalus, the cause of it Endrite: Ok I'm back. cthinker: klybutes... johns (GM): bonfilia wanted to offer another kid to take the sick noble's place, proclus wanted to take the curse for himself as a noble move the two debated and bonfilia won, so the other kid (who along with the sick noble kid had harassed Klybutes in his begger disguise) got cursed. hooray! Darvin: I mean, 1 rich kid has to equal at least 5 poor kids in the grand scheme of things. johns (GM): exactly Darvin: Cool, thanks for the catchup. johns (GM): which in fact leads into today's session.. Endrite! What's the name of our Inn? cthinker: sitting in the lab and reading about creo is an extremely wizardly response to an ethical dilemma imposed by a former master as a test of character Endrite: Uhhhhh. Hmm. The Eastern Ear cthinker: i mean. i assume that's what klybutes is up to johns (GM): at the time Klybutes was insisting he was using his curse to teach a valuable lesson about Tytalan philosophy Anyway, the Eastern Ear is a cool hangout for you when you are tired of the soul crushing darkness and claustraphobic nature of the crypt Proclus of Rome: Oh yeah for sure. johns (GM): I assume Ildebrando is paid well enough to overlook you creeping out the mundane guests Proclus of Rome: I think it's more likely that the inn does such incredible business that he doesn't mind. Since it's a huge source of income for the covenant. Lodewig of Tytalus: is the inn a source in itself? well, cool johns (GM): mm yep, you make good bucks off the pilgrim trade in Rome Proclus of Rome: Specifically to the magical tithe shrine. johns (GM): So on this day in early 1317, various characters-- whoever wishes to be-- are enjoying the hospitality of the Inn when in walks in the one-armed Steward of House Capocci, along with two men at arms, one of which is carrying a birdcage Lodewig of Tytalus: Anyway I appreciate having this place but prefer to cast a wider net when finding mundanes to creep on Proclus of Rome: Birdcage eh? johns (GM): Inside is a falcon. He's looking for any of the Magi who were around at the last adventure, or their associates Giacopo: I'm here, because I have no interesting jobs right now and like to compare notes on the latest gossip with Ildebrando Proclus of Rome: I am one of those fellows. Ferris of Trianoma: Does the Falcon have a hood on it? Bonfilia of Verditius: I am lounging in the inn. johns (GM): Yeah, does anyone have Animal Handling? Aristocritus of Trianoma: aristocritus is chillin' Proclus of Rome: No. Ferris of Trianoma: Only Animal Ken johns (GM): which btw I'm using this sheet to track people's passive abilities and such, let me know if any changes need to be made for your chars https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nAVc3mB47UD-e1eTrvYqju8jrvIhm9F-Fs_z5PpmE9I/edit#gid=0 Proclus of Rome: Lookin' good. Giacopo: I have animal handling 1, with 1 xp Proclus of Rome: But my most notable ability is Artes Liberales. Aristocritus of Trianoma: my greek lore is focused in mythology, not that it matters a lot Giacopo: I had a dog when I was a boy Proclus of Rome: The Ars Liberals. Claude: The Steward approaches y'all and addresses Proclus and Bonfilia. "Good day, esteemed wise ones. I've come bearing tidings from my master, Sir Hugo di Capocci. He wishes to thank you for your help in past matters and presents the finest falcon of his menagerie, now yours." "It's a Merlin. He thought you would appreciate that." The Steward smiles. Proclus of Rome: Ok, thank you. I have 0 Order of Hermes Lore so I do not appreciate it, not that I tell him. Claude: shameful Giacopo: "now that's a (per+animal handling 9) fine specimen of a bird" the roll determines whether I'm being sincere Claude: It's pretty fine One of the guys sets the cage down on your table, it's yours to deal with now. "My master also wishes to extend a formal invitation to you. He would like you to join his court as official advisors of all matters strange and arcane." Giacopo: kind of embarrassing for a merlin to be the best hawk in this guy's mews though. aren't they a girl's bird. Bonfilia of Verditius: I'm a girl. Aristocritus of Trianoma raises an eyebrow. Aristocritus of Trianoma: at the invitation to become court magicians, not at bonfilia's claim to be a woman Claude: i rose an eyebrow at that claim Bonfilia of Verditius: "Hmm." I ponder this matter intently. Proclus of Rome: I am happy to be of aid when I can, but I'm afraid my studies would not permit me to give your master the amount of advice he surely requires. Giacopo: bonfilia claims to be a goat Bonfilia of Verditius: Perhaps there is some way to grift this man out of his hard inherited gold? Proclus of Rome: Shame on you, the Capocci family is one of the greatest in all of Rome. Their wealth goes beyond mere money. Giacopo pointedly gasps in approbation at this honour. he is standing nearer the magi than he was before Claude: "You would be granted fine residents and all the necessary resources of my lord's estates for furthering your study, in exchange for your constant advice and assistance against matters such as the curse that plagued his son." "I have asked around and understand you currently reside in the catacombs? Surely this is not the proper place for scholars of merit.." Proclus of Rome: Are the Capocci's involved in any feuds or vendettas with any of the other luminaries of Roman society? That's an Area Lore roll, right? Claude: yeah Proclus of Rome: Stress die or regular? Claude: your choice Proclus of Rome: Ok. What characteristic applies here? Claude: Int Proclus of Rome: Communication? Ok. rolling 1d10 + 8 -1 + 2 ( 5 ) +8-1+2 = 14 Claude: also if you botch an information gathering roll/intelligo roll i'll roll the botch die in secret so you don't know the real result Okay, good lore. You don't know of any specific feuds or vendettas. You know the powerful noble houses all regard each other as enemies. Aristocritus of Trianoma: you're adding/subtracting aura modifiers to casting scores in secret too, right Claude: No I hope people do that on their own Proclus of Rome: He would IF AURA MODIFIERS WERE EVER UNKNOWN TO ME! Claude: aura here is I guess infernal 2 Giacopo: arent we in reach of the covenant's magic aura? Claude: that's pretty typical for any place that dabbles in vice like drinking and gluttony yeah magic aura, I like that better Proclus of Rome: In any case, auras don't apply a modifier to abilities. Aristocritus of Trianoma: right Giacopo: save supernatural abilities, when we remember Bonfilia of Verditius: does anyone have code of hermes? Proclus of Rome: Nope. Aristocritus of Trianoma: i have some, i think Proclus of Rome: Well, I recommend against any temporal alliance. Ferris of Trianoma: Nope. Claude: Even with 0 Code of Hermes you should all know the Oath you swore Proclus of Rome: Friendship with all, alliances with none, that's my motto. Aristocritus of Trianoma: ooh lore 2 Giacopo: court wizardry isn't in the oath specifically, but you should know it's frowned on with at least 1xp in the code Aristocritus of Trianoma whispers in Latin that this all seems a bit illegal. Claude: the steward has a tonsure and is wearing a monk's habit just fyi Aristocritus of Trianoma: not that that's stopped anyone in this covenant. Claude: but ill leave you to discuss this while I pour another drink Giacopo: in latin "di Cappoci is a very strong man in the city" Proclus of Rome: There are 6 other noble families in Rome, there is no reason to make six enemies. I say this in Italian, but I'm... Bonfilia of Verditius: "Maybe we can make some money from this venture." Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10 +4 +1 Guile ( 1 ) +4+1 = 6 doing what I believe is a whisper. Darvin: ha Aristocritus of Trianoma: I have bigger plans in mind than being some noble's servant. Ferris of Trianoma: in Latin, "I agree with Proclus. Seems like we could make many enemies quickly." Bonfilia of Verditius: "I have an idea..." I pull everyone close to me. "What if we serve him for a year, and then we mind control him into servitude? He could provide us with bountiful resources." Giacopo: I'll engage the steward in distracting patter, if he's content to wait while the magi compose their response Proclus of Rome: That would be, not only wrong, but unlikely to bear any fruit. Claude: com+charm giacopo Giacopo: rolling d10!+2+9 ( 6 ) +2+9 = 17 Proclus of Rome: The noble houses of Rome are more than one person and their internal politics can be fractious. Claude: you and the steward have a lively conversation about the state of the capocci family Giacopo: My cloak is also extremely well made, worth +3 to rolls that involve wearing clothes, if that has any bearing Proclus of Rome: Strange behavior could be seen as a sign of weakness, leading to a shift in power. +3 to Not Being Naked Giacopo: no, it's silly to invoke that on a comm roll Claude: "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society" - kurt cobain Proclus of Rome: What about babies, Kurt? Bonfilia of Verditius: "You say it would be unlikely to bear fruit? But I could forge a ring that would bind his will to servitude. Think of the possibilities. We have been invited, and so none would suspect a strange noble spending money on his court wizards." Ferris of Trianoma: "And what if someone discovered the ring?" Proclus of Rome: If he spent too much money for his other courtiers to stomach he would likely be reduced to a figurehead or even murdered. The scope for corruption would be limited. In addition, it would be very wrong to enslave a man for our own gain. Bonfilia of Verditius: "And then, once dried of funds, we move on." "I see nothing that could possibly go wrong from this, and it would allow us to invest in marvelous projects... if only for a while." Aristocritus of Trianoma: Is it common for the nobles of Rome to keep court magicians? Proclus of Rome: Good question that I probably know the answer to! Should I roll again? Claude: Please Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10 + 8-1 +2 ( 8 ) +8-1+2 = 17 Claude: They may deal with alchemists or philosophers but you haven't heard of anyone professing to be a court wizard in Rome Proclus of Rome: We should also avoid angering the other nobles by aligning ourselves with their enemies. I feel like this point cannot be overstated. Aristocritus of Trianoma: "Then there's nobody we need to keep an eye on," says Aristocritus to himself Giacopo: How odd, I think, knowing nothing of the Order of Hermes' bloody crusade against the only organisation of courtiers with the temerity to declare themselves wizards Claude: Uhhh what are you talking about. Those people definitely never existed and do not still exist in every corner of power. Hahaha. Proclus of Rome: The Tribunal of Rome is welcome to stop us from doing anything we want. Bonfilia of Verditius: "I still say we enslave the noble fool for daring to ask us to be in his servitude." Ferris of Trianoma: +1 for Enslavement Proclus of Rome: Sounds like we're tied again. Giacopo: you don't have to give him an immediate answer Bonfilia of Verditius: "Give us some time to decide, then." Giacopo: rolling d10+2+7 etiquette ( 8 ) +2+7 = 17 Aristocritus of Trianoma: aristocritus ultimately doesn't care, as long as he isn't pulled into it Proclus of Rome: Hmm we're in an inn, so shouldn't you be rolling Carouse, the ability that is fully and totally distinct from Etiquette? Claude: Claude is a bit surprised that anyone would not immediately accept such an honor, but nods. "Yes, I understand. We do not mean to impose. Let me suggest a sort of moderate step-- you keep a library, would you be interested in sharing knowledge?" Proclus of Rome: No. Giacopo: "This is a great honour, and one worth proper reflection. The magi will direct their meditations upon it" Claude: "The Capoccis would naturally compensate you for access to your library and offer you access to ours as it increases in size and breadth.." Giacopo: we're not carousing with this guy, though that might have been applicable earlier when i wanted to casually engage him Proclus of Rome: I'm not in favor of sharing our library with anyone. Bonfilia of Verditius: "We will consider it, but there is much to discuss." Giacopo: I guess it's conceivable that they might have books that would interest a magus Ferris of Trianoma: Might as well check it out Giacopo: if you're interested in hot takes on theology and civil law anyway Proclus of Rome: I am not. Claude: "Our library is basic at the moment-- my master is still acquiring volumes-- but he wished that I could take inventory of your own library to show him when I return." Aristocritus of Trianoma: for someone outside the order to pore through a hermetic library? no price is high enough cthinker: i just got disconnected for a few seconds Giacopo: I want it on the record that I have NOT been bragging about the covenant's library. I can't speak for Ildebrando Proclus of Rome: He's such a damn gossip! Aristocritus of Trianoma: did my complaint go through Claude: Yea Proclus of Rome: I saw it. There is no way he's getting into the catacombs. Giacopo: seems like he's got his answer. thanks for the bird tho Claude: "I understand. I am prepared to return to the Conte empty-handed. There is one thing-- I pray forgive me for imposing, but it is truly a trifle. Bonfilia of Verditius: we wont give him access Claude: The Conte has made a deal with a merchant of exotic books to add to his library. As my master is not versed in the arcane, he hoped that learned people such as yourselves would not mind looking over the wares to vouch for their authenticity? A fair amount of money is at stake and it should not take up any great deal of your itme..." Proclus of Rome: Sounds fine to me. Ferris of Trianoma: "We would be happy to verify." Giacopo: mmMMM sounds like a chance to connect with a merchant of exotic books/dupe a conte out of any real magical power he might inadvertently buy Bonfilia of Verditius: I rub my hands neapolitanishly. Giacopo: OR a chance to demonstrate how venal and untrustworthy you are by falling for this guy's elaborate ruse to entrap magi Aristocritus of Trianoma sees absolutely no way this could go wrong Claude: Claude is delighted. He gives you a sealed letter of introduction and explains that the merchant does not own a storefront but is renting space at a warehouse in the city, & gives you the address. Proclus of Rome: Great stuff. Claude: Who's headed out, current crowd? Ferris of Trianoma: I'll go Aristocritus of Trianoma: i'm down Giacopo: When he takes his leave I express regret that his offer was not taken up, and give him a few of my finest cloaks for the Conte and his family Proclus of Rome: I, as well. Bonfilia of Verditius: I Giacopo: sure I'll tag along Claude: the steward thanks you, these will definitely be helpful at [next big noble social occasion] Proclus of Rome: Eurodisco 1317 Giacopo: I feel an unaccountable urge to attack these warehouses with a horde of plastic goblins Claude: lol you arrive at the door of a warehouse rented by Jacapo the Venetian Proclus of Rome: Alright. Well we shouldn't just walk into the warehouse unaware. Giacopo: He sounds like a scoundrel. does he have any Reputations? Proclus of Rome: You could ask one of your spider friends, Ferris. Claude: What level reputation do you automatically know of with your virtue, Giacopo/ Ferris of Trianoma: I peer through the wall with a "Prying Eyes" to make sure we aren't walking into a group of ruffians. Giacopo: it always demands a roll, but the score is doubled for gossips johns (GM): aura is Dominion 1, you can cast? Ferris of Trianoma: Does that just subtract 1? Giacopo: for Italian merchants I think the ease factor should be 15 Ferris of Trianoma: It's a level 5 spell. johns (GM): -3 for Dominion that is, -3 for each level of Dominion (dominion sux) Ferris of Trianoma: Yeah, I can cast it. It's a level 5 spell and I have a 16 before roll. johns (GM): Good. No ruffians inside, just a few crates, and a well dressed man napping in a chair. Proclus of Rome: Sounds good to me. I'll walk right on in. johns (GM): The door is... Locked! Ferris of Trianoma: Burn it down. Proclus of Rome: I'll knock on the door. What is this a text adventure? johns (GM): You are standing west of the warehouse. There is a mailbox here Aristocritus of Trianoma: Hello in there! johns (GM): The door opens a crack, you can't see the face on the other end, but an Italian voice asks, "Yes, who is it?" Giacopo: I admire the craftsmanship of the lock, and mailbox Proclus of Rome: It's Proclus of Rome, I'm here on behalf of Hugo di Capocci about his book shipment. Too bad I didn't develop the Rote to erase books this year. johns (GM): "Have you come to issue payment?" Proclus of Rome: No, we're philosophers and we have come to authenticate the books. johns (GM): "Can you prove that?" Ferris of Trianoma: does he want to hear a poem? (twas a joke, how do we prove we are philosophers?) Proclus of Rome: That's easy. Giacopo: honestly that sounds as good a method as any Proclus of Rome: Discuss some philosophy. Aristocritus of Trianoma: bribe him with the most valuable coin of all: education Giacopo: I know Ferris knows philosophy because he's been reading Tytalus well, I don;t know that Ferris of Trianoma: Does anyone have higher than a 4? Proclus of Rome: I know Philosophy, because I'm a philosopher. Giacopo: would it help if we conducted this conversation in latin? Proclus of Rome: Yes. Ferris of Trianoma: Then all you Proclus Proclus of Rome: I have a Philosophy of 6. johns (GM): works for me Proclus of Rome: I'll discuss the problem of ethics as it relates to leprosy. rolling 1d10! + 6 + 2 ( 8 ) +6+2 = 16 Jacapo: You make a better case than you did against Bonfilia The man unbolts the door and lets you in. He's a well dressed merchant with a habit of never making eye contact with any of you. "Nice cloaks." Giacopo: This guy's ok Proclus of Rome: Oh, he must know Lodewig. Aristocritus of Trianoma: Which way to the books? Jacapo: He lights a candle and sets 4 books on a table. They are: An Infernal Lore Summa An Infernal Lore Tract Giacopo: I likewise compliment his dress Jacapo: An Infernal Lore Tract Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Jacapo: An Intelligo Tract "You will see that my wares are authentic." Giacopo: "You simply must tell me who your supplier is" Proclus of Rome: What are the Ls and Qs? Jacapo: the summa is L10 Q7, the lore tracts are Q8, the intelligo tract is Q7 Proclus of Rome: Interesting stuff. Well, it is certainly authentic. Giacopo: what else does he store in this warehouse? Aristocritus of Trianoma: are we actually reading through the books Giacopo: books don't come in such bulk you normally need this kind of storage solution Jacapo: You can just scan through them briefly to assess their quality He's got crates of tanned leather for sale too Proclus of Rome: Where does he get the leather from? Trade secret, I guess. Giacopo: rolling d10+1+24 per+craft assess leather ( 6 ) +1+24 = 31 Ferris of Trianoma: We can't just browse through them for 3 months, like the worst Barnes and Nobles customers ever? Jacapo: lol there's no coffee shop here for you so it'd be uncomfortable Giacopo, it's leather from cows, nothing remarkable Giacopo: cool. cool. well then are these infernal lore books at least bound in genuine human hide? Proclus of Rome: The books don't have the author written on them or anything, I assume. Jacapo: No authors Regular book bindings Giacopo: well, it would be interesting to know how he's so well connected in the infernal studies, but I can't read minds Proclus of Rome: You could always use your words. Giacopo: and I guess I failed on that rep check Jacapo: I didn't see a rep check Bonfilia of Verditius: "These are some weird books." I say. Aristocritus of Trianoma: Interesting choice of subject matter. Giacopo: that's becaue it's rolled with his reputation I'll check the ef table again Jacapo: "I specialize in the strange and unusual. You will find no other who can acquire volumes like these." Proclus of Rome: Seems plausible. Ferris of Trianoma: It would probably be worthwhile to get some fairy lore books. Proclus of Rome: Oh I'll try to see if he has any vis on him by using the Bounty of the Separate Place Rote. Jacapo: "If everything is in order I trust you will attest to it to the Conte.. ?" (From Proclus of Rome): Yes. (From Proclus of Rome): And only that which I can see. Ferris of Trianoma: Anything else you guys want to do? This is good to know if we ever want access to that guys library. Aristocritus of Trianoma: this guy seems like a good guy to know Jacapo: "Are you in the market yourselves?" Proclus of Rome: Well, we probably shouldn't encourage the Capocci family to dabble in Infernal Lore. They're already dangerous enough. On the other hand, we should probably acquire some. Bonfilia of Verditius: "These books may have some value." I want to roll Infernal Lore see if I know these books rolling d10!+5+3 ( 4 ) +5+3 = 12 Jacapo: You recognize the tract, there is no title or author on this copy but you've heard of this grimoire in passing, written by a 10th century Byzantine Monk Proclus of Rome: Oh well, if he's a monk it must be fine. Aristocritus of Trianoma idly flips through the Intellego book (To johns): ok, in my estimation knowing another italian merchant is the same scope as knowing another magus from the entire order, which is ease factor 15. if he beats that on d10+(2*rep) I know of him). Or if he' well known enough hereabouts to treat it as a (roman traders) rep, then the ease factor is 10 Bonfilia of Verditius: I nod knowingly. Proclus of Rome: What other books can Jacapo acquire? Jacapo: "I can share some of my catalog with you assuming the current matter is settled.." rolling 1d10!+4 ( 1 ) +4 = 5 giacopo has not heard of this dude Giacopo: sapristi! Proclus of Rome: Well, I think we should tell Claude that the books are the genuine article but also dangerous manuals detailing demonic rites. Ferris of Trianoma: Should we put in any potentional book orders before we leave? Giacopo: I think you all have sufficient magic theory to know that the intellego book is no earthly use to Capocci Jacapo: i'll show you what books you can buy once this present matter is decided Aristocritus of Trianoma: They're all the real deal. Proclus of Rome: I assume none of the books are of any use to Hugo di Capocci. Giacopo: Infernal lore is at least hypothetically useful Proclus of Rome: But that wasn't what he wanted to know. Giacopo: What if he's bedevilled? Bonfilia of Verditius: Who knows, really. Giacopo: anyway the point is it would be very valuable for the covenant to possess, and he'd be none the poorer for not buying it Proclus of Rome: I'm not interested in cheating him. Oh crap I forgot to roll Aegis of the Hearth for this year! Giacopo: that means you forgot to cast it and fairies are robbing the library right now Aristocritus of Trianoma: that's a matter to bring up with the man himself, not with his merchant Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10! + 21 ( 10 + 9 ) +21 = 40 Jacapo: Very nice Giacopo: nice Aristocritus of Trianoma: nice Ferris of Trianoma: noice Proclus of Rome: Anyway. Giacopo: that's at least pen+10+d10 penetration Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10 + 4 + 10 ( 1 ) +4+10 = 15 Pretty small book. Giacopo: and yes, Anyway. Looks like everything's in order then if you don't want to gazump the conte's purchases Jacapo: Great Giacopo: it might be worth taking him up on select book trades so we can make copies. You could safely lend him Corpus Iuris if he doesn't have it already Jacapo: He would actually like you to tell this to the Conte and come back the next day to work out a trade as he, he freely admits, "I must be cautious not to be cheated." Proclus of Rome: Ok. Giacopo: what price is he asking Proclus of Rome: I'm a little distracted by all the magical gasses. Giacopo: since we're apparently his buyers now Jacapo: these specific 4 volumes? he handles the payment with the count direct the next day unless you're doing some sort of scheme Giacopo: oh you meant work out a trade for other books, ok Jacapo: I just want to make sure this current deal is closed before getting into the nitty gritty of your deals Giacopo: i have no objection, except that i;m itching to roll Bargain Jacapo: any objections? going once.. Proclus of Rome: I think we can close this deal fairly easily. Jacapo: going twice.. Ok. Time to talk shop then. The covenant currently has 104$ in the treasury, and makes about 25$ in profit a year. While we are considering spending money, I've put up a list of current vis prices in the Journal. Proclus of Rome: Good thing profit has been invented. Jacapo: Here is Jacapo's current catalog and asking prices. He informs you that each item you purchase is in fact a scribed copy of an original so it takes some seasons between purchase and acquisition. Giacopo please roll Comm + Bargain Proclus of Rome: What is it with Simons? Giacopo: stressed? Jacapo: Yes Giacopo: rolling d10!+2+11 ( 6 ) +2+11 = 19 I'll conf. I craft only the finest deals. Jacapo: Excellent! Jacapo is also willing to show a couple special items available, which I will put down now Proclus of Rome: Interesting stuff. Pretty indie title he's got there. Aristocritus of Trianoma: There's Something About Vim Jacapo: Now would also be a good time to buy vis if you are interested Bonfilia of Verditius: Some vintage tomes. Aristocritus of Trianoma: we don't have a vim book, right Proclus of Rome: Wait he also sells vis? Ferris of Trianoma: I'm interested in any of the Lvl 12 books and the Magic Lore book Proclus of Rome: We do. It's L5. Q15 Jacapo: Your current library http://ars-badgame-ii.wikia.com/wiki/Library Aristocritus of Trianoma: hm. Jacapo: you can order around the titles as you see fit to decide what you buy, just let me know if you have any questions Proclus of Rome: What're his vis prices? Aristocritus of Trianoma: i like the sound of the penetration and concentration tracts Boy R.: thank you for these titles Jacapo: The vis is sold by House Mercere not Jacapo, just putting it up at the same time for convenience Ferris of Trianoma: My personal top 3 are De Naturam Bestia, Liber Abaci, and Something about Vim. Jacapo: are players able to move the cards around? Boy R.: looks like it Bonfilia of Verditius: Something About Vim is a classic penetration is real good terram summa also good Boy R.: it's also further evidence, if any were needed, of this guy's infernalist connection Jacapo: lol Boy R.: what was that guy's name. some ex miscellanea genius, writes a book on vim, almost goes full satan, retires to the exorcist covenant Proclus of Rome: I don't know. Jacapo: then dies mysteriously and Karl's character was going to investigate it but then karlnp got depression and stopped playing Bonfilia of Verditius: rip Boy R.: anyway lodewig is too busy lounging to have any input, so i'll limit myself to saying books on arts are good Aristocritus of Trianoma: how much money would it cost per year to give a poor character a rich lifestyle Bonfilia of Verditius: terram summa is probably the most useful book here Proclus of Rome: I agree. Very high level. Boy R.: I'm glad you asked, because the answer is tedious and involved Aristocritus of Trianoma: hell yes Bonfilia of Verditius: vim summa also very good Boy R.: in short: about 1080 surplus labour point Proclus of Rome: The lore books might be useful. And of course Almagest looks great. Jacapo: in a spring covenant the highest standard of living (magi/noble) is about 5£/yr, double in a summer covenant Boy R.: the thing to remember is that the poor and rich virtues represent prosperity relative to others of your class and occupation Jacapo: plus extra expenses for food, laborers, servants, writing materials etc.. it's convoluted Boy R.: so it's really hard to put a cash figure on it. but if you invest enough efffort points in your personal income source you can advance to wealthy, earn free seasons, and then spend even more to advance to poor in the next income bracket Jacapo: idea, people could use the colored pen tool to mark stuff Aristocritus of Trianoma: i was thinking we could give that witch enough money to live comfortably and then demand vis in return, since she would have the free time to conjure some up Proclus of Rome: Ok. Boy R.: well, she doesn't have the gift or know the hermetic technique of distilling vim vi s Aristocritus of Trianoma: witches can do their own thing to extract vim vis i think Bonfilia of Verditius: witches can get vis without it using dowsing Boy R.: oh cool Aristocritus of Trianoma: maybe not if she doesn't have the gift? Boy R.: well she might be able to do that Bonfilia of Verditius: she doesnt need the gift but she needs Dowsing Boy R.: i think i said she has potions and uh, something else curses? Aristocritus of Trianoma: poor rego summa left in the corner and forgotten Bonfilia of Verditius: wait rego is strongest get the rego one Boy R.: rego and animal would be real good Aristocritus of Trianoma: i already marked five things so Proclus of Rome: I'm not marking any more stuff. (From Jacapo): I don't know if you had plans for the folk witch but I was actually thinking she would end up in the Capocci court at some point Proclus of Rome: We can always buy more later if these books don't turn out to be cursed or something. (To johns): of course i didn't, and that's cool. she's very peasant though, but maybe lavinia's tutelage gives her the graces to serve as urbane court wizard Jacapo: who is making the red checkmarks Aristocritus of Trianoma: nobody for penetration? Ferris of Trianoma: That was me. Jacapo: kk Proclus of Rome: You shouldn't steal his color! Ferris of Trianoma: Ah! I see the color thing now. My bad I'll change my marks. Boy R.: ok i marked the animal one, that' as far as i'll go Jacapo: let me tally up everything marked so far Aristocritus of Trianoma: what's this purple dot Boy R.: i could have sworn i set my colour to black earlier because i always confuse the other ones, but i guess this room hasn't learned my preferences yet Jacapo: 156£ marked total at the moment Aristocritus of Trianoma: hm. Jacapo: you can change your color by clicking the colored square next to your name Boy R.: it's cool noone else is green or brown Jacapo: If I count only the items with at least 2 check marks its 112 £ worth Proclus of Rome: That is, perhaps, too much mahney. Boy R.: how about if we gave everyone 1 vote, and then see what we have left Proclus of Rome: Good idea. Jacapo: Anonymous (ie whisper the votes to me)? Boy R.: well, if you like Aristocritus of Trianoma: how do i do that (From Bonfilia of Verditius): Rego (To johns): De Naturam Bestiae!! Boy R.: I don't mind having my preference known though: they're for naturam bestiae (From Ferris of Trianoma): De Naturam Bestiae Jacapo: what's the GM whisper command? basic whisper is /w Playername Boy R.: write /w johns or whoeveryou're trying to whisper (From Aristocritus of Trianoma): terram Jacapo: no need for anonymous now that I think about it Proclus of Rome: Yeah, why would you do that? Jacapo: because im dumb Proclus of Rome: It isn't like these votes are hurting anyone's feelings. Boy R.: yes, we can afford 5 books, and I recommend ferris go for his second choice Bonfilia of Verditius: Rego for me Jacapo: ferris if you want to vote for something other than the animal book to insure you grab it go ahead Aristocritus of Trianoma: something about vim... Ferris of Trianoma: I don't feel strongly enough about any of the unpicked ones. So if something unpicked would be very useful for something else. Boy R.: ok, voting vim Jacapo: Okay, if we take the four selected the total cost is 90£ Proclus or Bonfilia could grab another volume that is worth 14 or less Proclus of Rome: Nah, I'm good. Boy R.: no harm to have a little cash stored by Jacapo: Excellent Boy R.: even if it's against the mores of the time Proclus of Rome: Or to use as a base for copying. Jacapo: Okay, I have a bit more to this saga, but let's take a 5 minute break.. I will add these volumes to the library page now Proclus of Rome: Ok. Ferris of Trianoma: These will take a few seasons to arrive, right? Jacapo: Yes Aristocritus of Trianoma: i really need to spend my seasons. Proclus of Rome: How long does it take to inscribe an Arcane Circle of larger than ordinary size? Boy R.: how larger are we talking Proclus of Rome: A radius of about 2 miltes. Boy R.: at that scale I'd say you need to dig a considerable ditch to handle uneven ground and make a clear mark that won't be casually effaced Proclus of Rome: Ok. But inscribing a circle is more than just making the mark. Aristocritus of Trianoma: good to see the bird has its own mug Proclus of Rome: It also requires certain arcane symbols and paraphernalia. Boy R.: idk what distinguishes an arcane circle from a regular spell circle ok Proclus of Rome: An Arcane Circle can be acted upon using any circle of the same size. Boy R.: then you're probably talking months, I guess, and ofc unrestricted access to anywhere inside the area johns what's your take? johns (GM): Remember you need a conc check to make a circle that goes up with the size of the circle making a 2 mile radius circle would be a very difficult concentration check Boy R.: well, that's for inscribing a circle as you cast a spell idk if that's required for arcane circles Aristocritus of Trianoma: which season was the vis hunt in Proclus of Rome: The primary circle needs to be but the subject circle need not be. johns (GM): 1314 Summer Proclus of Rome: However both must be perfect circles and not just generally round. Boy R.: well to walk a circle that size accurately it needs to be marked beforehand Proclus of Rome: I can do that no problem. Boy R.: my inclination would be to say it's practically impossible to maintain concentration on a figure that size Proclus of Rome: Scribe the Perfect Circle creates a perfect circle. Alright. johns (GM): post the question in the thread so I am reminded to review the rules of hermetic geography and figure it out Boy R.: basically i think circle or arcane circle shouldn't be a substitute for boundary target Proclus of Rome: It's geometry. Aristocritus of Trianoma: what season was the curse thing that i missed johns (GM): same damn thing Proclus of Rome: No it isn't. To hell with you. johns (GM): Curse was 1316 Boy R.: aristocritus the vis hunt took place all through 1314, so take adventure xp in whichever season you prefer the curse thing was summer maybe? johns (GM): You pay in advance for Jacapo's books, I hope that's OK Boy R.: what season is it right now? Proclus of Rome: Uh what? johns (GM): Right now is Spring but I'm about to jump ahead to Winter Proclus of Rome: Pay in advance? That's insane. Boy R.: that's not ok johns (GM): lol Boy R.: if he produces copies of those books, we will absolutely pay. he knows there's a limited market for such specialised texts Jacapo: Well the schedule he proposes is that he can deliver 2 books in the Summer and 2 in the Winter, and needs a certain amount of money up front as he doesn't know you and he needs to pay scribes, insurance, etc. Proclus of Rome: How much money up front? Giacopo: rolling d10+2+9 folk ken ( 10 ) +2+9 = 21 is this guy on th Jacapo: He does not intend to scam you Let's say 25% now, 50% when he delivers the 2 books in the Summer, and 25% when he delivers in the winter Giacopo: well, I am an excellent judge of character Proclus of Rome: Sounds good to me. Giacopo: that seems like an acceptable risk, but procure an arcane connection to him just in cae Proclus of Rome: How does Claude react when we tell him that the Intelligo book won't be very useful? Giacopo: rolling d10!+4+7 dex+legerdemain purloin a hair in the course of admiring the cut of Jacapo's coat ( 1 ) +4+7 = 12 Claude: he asks what you mean rolling 2d10 ( 4 + 7 ) = 11 Giacopo: cool Proclus of Rome: It's very specialized knowledge and not likely to be of use to most people, even most scholars would be hard pressed to read it! Claude: Yes, that's what makes it arcane Proclus of Rome: Well, you should be aware that you might not find it very edifying. Claude: Claude seems unconcerned Proclus of Rome: I should also point out that the other three books are a little dangerous. Claude: "Dangerous in what way? Proclus of Rome: Dealing with Satanism as they do. Claude: "Satanism??" Proclus of Rome: You should always be careful when you learn things about demons because you might be tempted to think you can outsmart them. What did you think you were buying? Claude: "I was not picky. I asked for arcane texts and that is what the merchant promised." Proclus of Rome: Well, and my more learned colleagues can feel free to correct me on this, but those particular texts deal exclusively with knowledge of demons and other topics that good people shouldn't know too much about. Seriously feel free to correct me, I have 0 Infernal Lore. Aristocritus of Trianoma: They're bona fide arcane texts, certainly. Claude: "I wish you had spoken up earlier then. We have no use for such volumes and should not have paid for them then." Lodewig of Tytalus: "Knowledge of the powers of hell is not, in itself, a sin. In my country we have a saying, that forewarned is forearmed" Proclus of Rome: Well, I wanted to speak up earlier but for some reason two seasons went by in the blink of an eye. Ferris of Trianoma: "My understanding is that you don't intend to study any of the volumes, regardless of their content. Lodewig of Tytalus: "it is one of few truly 'arcane' subjects that the layman can comprehend" Claude: I asked if you wanted to object at all when handing the books over to the count and counted down and banged the gavel Lodewig of Tytalus: well, we didn't Proclus of Rome: Well that's fine then. Claude: kk Lodewig of Tytalus: or maybe you did, sorry Claude: "What do you mean, Mr. Ferris?" Bonfilia of Verditius: I nod my head knowingly at Lodewig. Ferris of Trianoma: "If you aren't going to study the content, then it's demonic lore shouldn't be a large concern. It is a study written by a monk if I remember correctly, so I'm sure the content has no ill intentions." Claude: "Conte Hugo is a good man at heart, should that be enough to allow him to read these volumes?" Bonfilia of Verditius: "I wouldn't worry about it. A little infernal lore never hurt anybody." Proclus of Rome: I tap the plaque that says, "Always do the opposite of what Prinny says." Lodewig of Tytalus: the divine comedy must be due to come out sometime soon infernal lore can't be so bad if it comes packaged with divine lore Claude: ~3 years iirc Ferris of Trianoma: 1320. Claude: how lucky we are to live in the era of Dante & Petrarch Proclus of Rome: Oh I didn't realize you could all see the future! Pretty amazing Hermetic discovery! Ferris of Trianoma: He's been writing the book since 1308, so... Lodewig of Tytalus: I have a lot of contacts in the tuscan literary scene Bonfilia of Verditius: I'm a big fan of infernal tomes. Lavinia of Jerbiton: uhh i can see the future, eat shit hermestards johns (GM): OK Summer 1317, your books on Animal & Terram arrive Winter 1317 you are expecting a visit from Jacapo, but on the expected date, he does not arrive. He's supposed to bring your books on Rego and Vim and you have paid him 68 pounds by this point Proclus of Rome: Blast! Ferris of Trianoma: Pitchforks. johns (GM): I turn the table to you Giacopo: Well I have this hair if you need to curse him Bonfilia of Verditius: I shake my head. Lodewig of Tytalus: Or better yet, locate him. Proclus of Rome: Well, we can always find him and ask him where our books are. Bonfilia of Verditius: "This is an OUTRAGE!" Proclus of Rome: After all, it could be that he is having some problem. Ferris of Trianoma: Didn't someone magically mark him with something? cthinker: b r b johns (GM): Giacopo stole a hair which is an arcane connection Proclus of Rome: Giacopo clumsily stole a lock of hari. Ferris of Trianoma: Let's just go look for him at his shack. Proclus of Rome: Sounds good to me. Ferris of Trianoma: I'll take another pyring eye look through the wall to see if anyone is inside. johns (GM): You see: A man with a sword wearing armor, and a clerical looking fellow, inspecting the crates within Lodewig of Tytalus: I'll storm off with the rest of the posse this time. ah crap Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Well, I see no possible problems here. Bonfilia of Verditius: Oh shit it's the police Proclus of Rome: We should ask them what they're doing. Ferris of Trianoma: Shall we knock? Bonfilia of Verditius: I hang out in the back. Proclus of Rome: Were you born in a barn? Of course we should knock. Oh shit it's dat boi. Whaddup? johns (GM): this is the middle ages he may very well have been born in a barn who are you to judge? it was good enough for jesus Bonfilia of Verditius: I know I was. Ferris of Trianoma: knock knock knock Bonfilia of Verditius: Barnborne. johns (GM): Are you still Peering in as you knock Ferris? Ferris of Trianoma: Yeah, until they open the door. Lodewig of Tytalus: hmm johns (GM): They both look a bit startled. The armored guy approaches the door with hand on the hilt of his sword. He doesn't open it but shouts out, "Who's there?" Lodewig of Tytalus: it might of coure have been prudent to sent some less obviously affiliated agent, of course oh well Ferris of Trianoma: "We are looking for the merchant who lives here. Who are you?" johns (GM): He gruffly replies, "This warehouse is the property of the Barone Conti. What is your business with the man who was here?" Proclus of Rome: Oh shit. Ferris of Trianoma: Hmmmmm Proclus of Rome: I'm about 65% sure that Conti and Capocci are feuding at the moment. Lodewig of Tytalus: "We were buying books. He is a bookseller, I understand" johns (GM): The man replies, "Wait." Bonfilia of Verditius: I clear my throat. "He owes us money or goods!" johns (GM): Ferris can see him go over to talk to the clerk for a few minutes-- are you only able to see or can you hear as well? Proclus of Rome: Well, I do have working ears. Ferris of Trianoma: You can see inside a room, as long as you can touch one of its walls. If the room is unlit or poorly lit, you can only see as much as you could if you were inside, but magical enhance- Ferris of Trianoma: ments of your senses do apply. You may change your viewpoint within the room throughout the duration of the spell. Looks like no? johns (GM): oh cool you can like zoom and enhance Lodewig of Tytalus: it doesn't give you any extra powers of hearing johns (GM): pan & scan Man at Arms: Well you don't know what they say but after a minute both come to the door and open it. "The merchant is in the Conti's dungeon right now. You'll want to speak to the Barone. Enzo here can take you to him." Proclus of Rome: Well, fair enough. Ferris of Trianoma: "That's quite kind of you. Is all of the merchant's good belong to Conti as well?" Man at Arms: btw i heartily encourage people to use the pen tool to make funny graffiti "I've nothing more to say of it. If you try to come inside I'll deal with you as trespassers." Proclus of Rome: What do I look like, an Ork? Lodewig of Tytalus: detect live animals or animal product - base 1, +4 vision = 5 make that sound and conc, so still level 5 Proclus of Rome: You sponting? Lodewig of Tytalus: aye Ferris of Trianoma: "No need for such violent remarks for a couple of book worms! I'll gladly go with Enzo." Lodewig of Tytalus: rolling (d10!+6+2)/5 (( 8 ) +6+2)/5 = 3.2 and there's bad aura. never mind if only we had an intellego book! Ferris of Trianoma: Ha cthinker: cumthinker here Man at Arms: Hail Lodewig of Tytalus: oh shit wait, I divided by 5 when I meant to divide by 2 Man at Arms: The clerk shows you the way to the Militia Tower, a large fortified structure in Rome.. yeah /5 is for non-fatiguing want to try again? Lodewig of Tytalus: that's half of 8+6+2-3 I think Ferris of Trianoma: So 7.5 Aristocritus of Trianoma: rounded up Ferris of Trianoma: I mean 6.5? Man at Arms: Sure. There's large amounts of animal product in the warehouse Lodewig of Tytalus: dang the skins Proclus of Rome: Such is life. Lodewig of Tytalus: well never mind, we'd need a closer look to find books Man at Arms: anything you want to do en route? enzo is an easily distracted chump Aristocritus of Trianoma: Nice tower. Lodewig of Tytalus: No I want to see where this is going Man at Arms: it is in fact nicer than pictured here because an earthquake destroyed the top two floors sometime after 1317 Lodewig of Tytalus: skyquake Proclus of Rome: What's the Aura here? Man at Arms: Dominion 1 Proclus of Rome: Ok. Man at Arms: Infernal 1 by night Proclus of Rome: Thank you Man at Arms. Man at Arms: You are welcome Lodewig of Tytalus: is it night? johns (GM): Nah, day Lodewig of Tytalus: ok johns (GM): Just as a general principle, all Dominion goes down by 1 at night, so the default aura in the city is Dominion 1/Infernal 1 imo Aristocritus of Trianoma: Man at Arms is almost as helpful as Masini Proclus of Rome: Well, does anyone have anything they want to ask Enzo? Like what he was doing at the warehouse? Because I want to ask that question. Enzo: Cataloging the goods to be confiscated Proclus of Rome: Oh, who did you confiscate them from? Enzo: That Lombard.. Ah, I shouldn't say any more. Lodewig of Tytalus: Not a venetian? Proclus of Rome: Oh shit! Ferris of Trianoma: "No need to be a stranger Enzo." johns (GM): He bristles at your attempts to be friendly Proclus of Rome: Fair enough. johns (GM): you're all Normal Gift here? Lodewig of Tytalus: yup Aristocritus of Trianoma: c johns (GM): Awesome! Ferris of Trianoma: I think Lavinia is the only gentle. Lodewig of Tytalus: sorry I wanted to fail casting some spells Proclus of Rome: Maybe next time. Bonfilia of Verditius: I'm normal as all hell. johns (GM): Okay, you come to the Tower, Enzo gets you past the guards and doormen and into a hall where a pudgy well-dressed man, obviously someone of importance, is holding court Lodewig of Tytalus: you could always make some mundane characters that can navigate an urban environment without attracting notice! johns (GM): There's guards all around including that ominous looking guy by his side Mundanes ftw Aristocritus of Trianoma: mundanes ftl. johns (GM): Enzo goes up and whispers some stuff to the important dude, and he then addresses you Lodewig of Tytalus eyes his pudginess with contempt Torquato di Conti: "I am the Barone Torquato di Conti. I hear you have been purchasing books from the merchant in my dungeon. Tell me the nature of your business with him." Proclus of Rome: Well, I think you described it well enough. Ferris of Trianoma: "We like to purchase books. He sells books." Lodewig of Tytalus: "We can probably conduct our business with him if you'll show us to the dungeon, we just need to know where he has our books@ Torquato di Conti: "Don't toy with me. What sort of books?" Proclus of Rome: Books of philosophy and other arcane subjects. Torquato di Conti grunts and nods Lodewig of Tytalus: actually which books were we waiting on this time Torquato di Conti: Rego & Vim Lodewig of Tytalus: I have no problem giving him a full account of their subject matter Torquato di Conti: "And did you know Jacapo deals in heresies and sacrileges? No lies now." Proclus of Rome: No. Bonfilia of Verditius: "A book by the title of "Something About Vim" and another book, its titles escape." Ferris of Trianoma: "We've only briefly encountered the man once." Lodewig of Tytalus: "Inquiries into the manipulation of forms without adulteration, and a brief treatment of the quintessence" "it's natural magic, nothing you'd find contentious" Proclus of Rome: Magic? Lodewig of Tytalus: natural magic Proclus of Rome: Oh you mean empiricism. Torquato di Conti: rolling 1d10 ( 10 ) = 10 Lodewig of Tytalus: sure I mean I know it's not highly thought of but it's hardly sacreligious sacrilegiou Torquato di Conti: Torquato nods. He definitely understands what you're talking about. "My Court Chaplain tells me that there is a stink of maleficia in all of Jacapo's books. I cannot allow such trade to occur through my property." lol Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Well, I can't say he's too wrong about that. Lodewig of Tytalus: "now that IS interesting. you have a rare gift, padre" Torquato di Conti: com + charm please Lodewig of Tytalus: who, me? Torquato di Conti: yes Lodewig of Tytalus: rolling d10!+5+3-5 ( 8 ) +5+3-5 = 11 Torquato di Conti: "Go on.." Lodewig of Tytalus: "well, I don't have a nose for such unearthly odours. The books we looked over for the Conte di Cappoci certainly treated of occult subjects, but they didn't appear to offer actual instruction in the black arts so we thought there was nothing illicit in their trade. The books we ourselves commissioned him to purchase were on unrelated, rather specialised subjects, so if you sense something of the maleficia about them then we have been grossly misled. At the very least we are entitled to recover what we can of the payments we made him" Torquato di Conti: Torquato scratches his chin(s). "The Conte di Capocci is dabbling in this too you say?" Lodewig of Tytalus: "I don't know what he dabbles in. He bought some books" Torquato di Conti: "I need you to attest to that in writing. I want a record of it." Lodewig of Tytalus: "Why?" Proclus of Rome: Interesting... Torquato di Conti: "Because I asked." Proclus of Rome: That's a good enough reason for me. Bonfilia of Verditius: "Wait, wait. Why should we accept that deal?" "We have nothing to gain!" Lodewig of Tytalus: "I don't like to commit anything to writing, it may fall into an enemy's hands and give them power over me. I'm sure you understand" Ferris of Trianoma: we could attest that he was buying the books, and in return we take the books Torquato di Conti: rolling 1d10 ( 4 ) = 4 The Barone visibly does not understand, Lodewig. And he frowns menacingly at Bonfilia. Proclus of Rome: I'm happy to be honest here. Torquato di Conti: "I'm making no deals here. You made a claim and now you need to commit to it." Bonfilia of Verditius: "Or what?" Torquato di Conti: "Or I'll throw you off the top of the tower and see how well you fly you dumb bitch." Proclus of Rome: Harsh but fair. Lodewig of Tytalus visibly represses a smile Lodewig of Tytalus: "now let's be reasonable" "I'll stand by my word if anyone calls on me to attest to it" Ferris of Trianoma: "Will you put down in writing that you threatened to throw her off the tower if you didn't do what you asked her to do?" if she* didn't do Lodewig of Tytalus: "But we have more pressing concerns here. What's become of the legitimate and innocuous property this fellow promised us? He seemed an independent trader to me" Torquato di Conti: "I can carve it into your forehead if you really want it." The man seems easily distracted from Lodewig's reasonable patter. Proclus of Rome: He's very direct. I appreciate that. Ferris of Trianoma: trying to keep down urges to escalate this conversation Lodewig of Tytalus: idk I kind of want to see where this goes Proclus of Rome: Hey man, go for it. Lodewig of Tytalus: who else is present beside us, the barone and his chaplain Proclus of Rome: Unfortunately we have no power over you, yet. Bonfilia of Verditius: "Tch. What an unwise man! To toss insults so readily at us, mighty servants of [other italian noble dude from last sesh] as we are." Torquato di Conti: The Chaplain isn't here actually. It's 4 guards, the scowling guard Sargeant (?) next to him, and Enzo the clerk has left Lodewig of Tytalus: "We're autochthones, Bonfilia" Ferris of Trianoma: "Do you wish us to give us your letter written in blood on your forehead, as seems to be level of civilized you seems to be?" Proclus of Rome: Capocci, Bonfilia. But yes Lodewig is correct. We answer to no one and no man is obligated to protect us from being thrown off the top of a tower. Torquato di Conti: "Guards, throw these dogs back into whatever gutter they crawled out of." Lodewig of Tytalus: "and further, there's very little that can usefully be written in blood on one's body" "this entire conversation is absurd" Torquato di Conti: the conversation has come to an end at this point Proclus of Rome: Alright. Torquato di Conti: you're surrounded by armed guys who are willing to use force to throw you out what now? Proclus of Rome: Well, we could always kill them, but I don't see why we would. Ferris of Trianoma: Seems like the reasonable thing to do is the leave. (and come back and murder these guys later) Lodewig of Tytalus: how tiresome Torquato di Conti: Sure, sure Aristocritus of Trianoma: it's wizard time. Lodewig of Tytalus: can we reasonably infer where this guy's dungeon might be? Torquato di Conti: Basement of the tower Proclus of Rome: It's a donjon, so probably underground. Lodewig of Tytalus: anyway it might be time to start operating with more discretion. approach this guy through an agent or in disguise and he could yet be an aset Bonfilia of Verditius: lets fuck these guys up right now ill summon a wall of thorns in their faces Proclus of Rome: What are you going to do, throw bread at them? Lodewig of Tytalus: eh Torquato di Conti: Okay, you're going to attack right now before you leave? Lodewig of Tytalus: I'd rather just break out the merchant and get the lowdown on our book I'm not going to do that Proclus of Rome: I don't see why we should bother attacking them. Aristocritus of Trianoma: well. aren't they trying to fuck us up right now Torquato di Conti: I'll have to cobble together a quick battle screen, I was not expecting this course Proclus of Rome: They're trying to throw us out (at ground level). Lodewig of Tytalus: although wizardly hubris is cool, facing an equal number of trained and armed fighters will probably get one or two of us killed (From Ferris of Trianoma): I'm going to subtle cast "Doublet of Impenetrable Silk" on myself. But not sure how much time is passing. It's just a defensive soak spell. Aristocritus of Trianoma: hell yeah Lodewig of Tytalus: and I don't really want the hassle of the ensuing witch hunt Proclus of Rome: I don't want to kill any of these people. Aristocritus of Trianoma: you're our number one murderer! well, killer in self defense Proclus of Rome: Yep. Ferris of Trianoma: If we do murk these guys, we could get all the books. Torquato di Conti: Ah, cthinker, you have Intuition right? Aristocritus of Trianoma: oh, yeah Torquato di Conti: great, that's a good excuse for me to say that starting a fight would be Really Bad on many levels Proclus of Rome: Well, we'd have to fight our way through the entire tower, I assume. Aristocritus of Trianoma: that is a good excuse for that. Torquato di Conti: but you are the players and I serve at your whim, so do as you like Lodewig of Tytalus: plus everyone knows who we are and where to find us so there goes the covenant Aristocritus of Trianoma: ok. we should probably not fight Bonfilia of Verditius: I won't start a fight if you all say no. Proclus of Rome: I do so say. Lodewig of Tytalus: I want to support your plans because it's an initiative from a new player, but I also don't want to fuck everything over instantly Aristocritus of Trianoma: 1319: the surviving magi set up a covenant in exile in north africa Bonfilia of Verditius: I'm not a new player Torquato di Conti: hey that'd be cool if you did, I've had an excuse to bust out the north africa splatbook I got Lodewig of Tytalus: what book is that? Ferris of Trianoma: Sounds like we all agree to leave peacefully. Lodewig of Tytalus: I leave in as dignified a manner as is possible Aristocritus of Trianoma: if we're just being thrown out the regular non-lethal way there's no reason to fight i suppose johns (GM): Between Sand & Sea Mythic Africa i want to get the egypt book too but it's not in pdf form yet Lodewig of Tytalus: i must czech it out johns (GM): i'll send you a copy Lodewig of Tytalus: i've been thinking of bringing in an african apothecary grog ok troupe, how do we want to proceed we should make contact with the bookseller and find out what the story with the books is, imo Proclus of Rome: Well, do I know about any connections to the larger catacombs to the Militia Tower? rolling 1d10+ 8 -1 + 2 ( 3 ) +8-1+2 = 12 Lodewig of Tytalus: pending more specific plans, I don the visage of Fra. Angelo and beg for alms outside the torre Proclus of Rome: Hmm, I'm thinking of confing, give me a sec. Yeah I'll do it. johns (GM): According to legend.. which overrides fact, in Ars Magica, this tower dates back to the time of Nero. It does not connect directly to the catacombs but an adjacent chamber comes within a few meters. Proclus of Rome: Interesting. Well, that's all I can contribute. Aristocritus of Trianoma: i can tunnel through that, but i can't replace it Ferris of Trianoma: If only we had that terram book..... Lodewig of Tytalus: hmm. you need to know the right direction to dig Proclus of Rome: I don't see why you'd want to replace it. Lodewig of Tytalus: I could copy the face of one of the servants and infiltrate the tower. we would need to overpower him though. Proclus of Rome: Couldn't you just entrance one of them? Lodewig of Tytalus: oh, potentially Aristocritus of Trianoma: hmm Proclus of Rome: Well, we know where two are just hanging out. Aristocritus of Trianoma: would making rock non-solid so you can just walk through it be muto or perdo Lodewig of Tytalus: muto johns (GM): Muto Proclus of Rome: Muto. johns (GM): well either works but the Perdo form is really high level Lodewig of Tytalus: actually you can destroy something's tangibility with perdo but yeah, that's complicated Aristocritus of Trianoma: i should read that muto book. Lodewig of Tytalus: you could also turn yourself into something intangible Aristocritus of Trianoma: destroying a property sounds permanent anyway Lodewig of Tytalus: no, actually, that's the kind of perdo that has a duration Aristocritus of Trianoma: oh, weird Proclus of Rome: We could also do it the old fashioned way. Lodewig of Tytalus: it's like peim doesn't make things permanently invisible, because what you're destroying is a property that is being constantly generated by the fact of a solid object being there johns (GM): yeah the idea is that everything has its natural properties and while you can Perdo them away they naturally regain those properties over time Aristocritus of Trianoma: i guess having it be permanent would change an essential nature Ferris of Trianoma: I could also disguise myself with Lodewig. johns (GM): What sort of magics are you using for disguises? Aristocritus of Trianoma: right. you guys disguise yourselves and sneak in to repair the destroyed wall Lodewig of Tytalus: I have disguise of the new visage Aristocritus of Trianoma: the perfect crime Lodewig of Tytalus: so, we take down these men at arms and steal their clothes? Ferris of Trianoma: "Disguise of the New Visage" personally Lodewig of Tytalus: i don't like it, it leaves more evidence than is comfortable Proclus of Rome: We should head to the warehouse. There are only two people there. Lodewig of Tytalus: alright, I guess johns (GM): There's one man at arms and Enzo the clerk here Lodewig of Tytalus: this armour guy has a high tech helmet. is it possible to make eye contact? johns (GM): if rope kid were here he would destroy me for putting such an anachronistic helmet there yes eye contact works but not once combat is engaged Lodewig of Tytalus: as long as you know what you did wrong Proclus of Rome: You're just making it worse! Too bad you can't control spiders, Ferris. Otherwise you could get one to crawl into his helmet. Ferris of Trianoma: Counting down the days until spider familar I need to take some animal handling probably to have better luck with the spiders Lodewig of Tytalus: I feel like we need a better plan. I can entrance one guy to obey a command but I'm out of non-lethal self-defence options Proclus of Rome: Well, only the man at arms is likely to talk to use. If Enzo is distracted counting the skins, then we shouldn't have a problem. Lodewig of Tytalus: alright I guess I give myself bear's fortitude. I am carrying a wooden staff, wearing common clothing and have changed my face to one I stole from a random passer-by pry them eyes ferris. are they both in there? johns (GM): They're doing the same thing they were an hour ago Lodewig of Tytalus: lol, right I knock on the door Man at Arms: Without opening, the man at arms shouts out, "Who's there?" Lodewig of Tytalus: "I've come to take payment for the hides" Man at Arms: He opens the door. "First I'm hearing of this." Proclus of Rome: Good one. Lodewig of Tytalus: "Step outside for a minute" Man at Arms: it's just Lodewig here? Ferris of Trianoma: I'm hiding around the side. Lodewig of Tytalus: rolling d10!+9+2 entrancement ( 6 ) +9+2 = 17 Man at Arms: okay, the guy keeps a hand on his pommel but steps outside Lodewig of Tytalus: "Now, remove all your arms and armour" rolling d10!+9+2 entrancement ( 5 ) +9+2 = 16 Man at Arms: -3 from dominion? Lodewig of Tytalus: conf'ing I guess!! but have I mentioned my magnificent cloak? Man at Arms: rolling 1d10!+2 Sta ( 6 ) +2 = 8 Proclus of Rome: Does that really count for a supernatural ability? Man at Arms: should I add 5/3 of the bonuses in RAW Lodewig of Tytalus: ye probably to the second to the first, undoubtedly not Man at Arms: so he gets 23 vs your 18 Lodewig of Tytalus: tch Man at Arms: he laughs and draws his sword Lodewig of Tytalus: I guess not everyone is as biddable as an elderly widow Proclus of Rome: Quick, put a bag on his head. Aristocritus of Trianoma: am i even here Man at Arms: "Get lost before I skewer ya" Lodewig of Tytalus: do you want to be? Bonfilia of Verditius: do we know if he has MR Man at Arms: anyone else can be here if they were hiding around the corner Aristocritus of Trianoma: nice Proclus of Rome: The bag thing is my only idea. Ferris of Trianoma: I'm waiting to see what Lodewig does Lodewig of Tytalus: I really don't want to be chased off by some goon with a sword at a mere brandishing are we initiative or anything? Man at Arms: Alright Lodewig of Tytalus: that was more an inquiry than a demand I want to know if I can get a spell off risk-free Man at Arms: It's only combat if you press it If you make gestures he'll have a chance to react Proclus of Rome: Probably not since he's brandishing his sword at you. Lodewig of Tytalus: oh that's a ok I have ~deft animal~ so I silently cast gift of the frog's leg and leap onto the rooftop Man at Arms: alley oop Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Lodewig of Tytalus: rolling d10!+14+6+2-3 ( 5 ) +14+6+2-3 = 24 Proclus of Rome: Well this hasn't really solved the problem. Man at Arms: Proclus, you're up Lodewig of Tytalus: all good Bonfilia of Verditius: I don't think I have anything good for this battle Lodewig of Tytalus: well now I can murder him from a safe vantage point Proclus of Rome: What do I roll to put a bag on his head? Brawl? Lodewig of Tytalus: sounds appropriate I guess that's a grapple Aristocritus of Trianoma: if you can disarm him i can fling the sword onto the roof. but that sounds unlikely Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10! + 4 + 0 ( 1 ) +4+0 = 5 Oh boy, grapple rules. Man at Arms: rolling 2d10 ( 2 + 8 ) = 10 Aristocritus of Trianoma: rest in peace, proclus Man at Arms: So Proclus you are charging out from the corner to grabble this guy? Proclus of Rome: Yes. Clearly. Man at Arms: Ok, well, he dodges Proclus of Rome: Ok. Lodewig of Tytalus: sorry I haven't made a user-friendly writeup of the combat rules. But that'd be stress+dex+brawl vs 5+qik+single weapon+3 for armed vs unarmed or play it how you want, i'm not hte storyteller Man at Arms: I only have stats from RAW, how should I convert them for the new system, just double the martial abilities? That's right, I confess, you're totally catching me flatfooted with this course of action Lodewig of Tytalus: well judge the abilities for yourself, doubling is fine Proclus of Rome: I think I should gain a bonus for that. Lodewig of Tytalus: the main thing is that the new rule use rolled damage and passive soak and defence Man at Arms: rolling 1d10!+5+2+10+3 Defense ( 8 ) +5+2+10+3 = 28 Lodewig of Tytalus: I guess we don't need to worry about positioning for a situation like this Man at Arms: okay And if he wants to swing his axe at Proclus what is the roll Lodewig of Tytalus: oh and I assumed no attack or defence bonus from equipment just soak and damage if you want to use RAW then forget the unarmed attacker bonus Man at Arms: Attack roll is Stress + Dex + 2xRAW Weapon ability? Lodewig of Tytalus: yes Man at Arms: This guy has an axe and a heater shield per the template I'm using Proclus of Rome: Ok. Man at Arms: rolling 1d10!+2+10 Attack vs. Proclus ( 3 ) +2+10 = 15 Lodewig of Tytalus: ok, give him +3 for attacking an unarmed target Man at Arms: Ok, 18 Proclus of Rome: What do I roll? Aristocritus of Trianoma: aura penalty for spellcasting is -3 here right Lodewig of Tytalus: proclus' defence is 5+qik+brawl Man at Arms: Yup cthinker Proclus of Rome: Ok. Wait do I roll or just add those values? Lodewig of Tytalus: just add Proclus of Rome: Ok. 9. Ferris of Trianoma: we need to find a brawl teacher Proclus of Rome: I assume his axe is futuristic enough to be symmetrical. Come to think of it that may not be a reasonable assumption. Bonfilia of Verditius: intense Man at Arms: http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/ekmps/shops/bduimportsltd/images/condor-scout-hatchet-bushcraft-axe-9933-p.jpg I hadn't even considered that element sadly Proclus of Rome: That's a hatchet, not an axe! Bonfilia of Verditius: I'll jump in next round, was busy talking to some guys Man at Arms: Okay, well it's a one handed axe since he's got a heater shield in his off hand Lodewig of Tytalus: +9 doesn't grant any bonus so the damage is d10!+str+weaponn bonus Proclus of Rome: Probably you're thinking of this: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/_/rsrc/1452829554397/images/battle-axe.png Lodewig of Tytalus: Proclus' soak is 5+stam+armour +terram form bonus Proclus of Rome: Ok, that's 12 Man at Arms: rolling 1d10!+1+6 Damage ( 1 ) +1+6 = 8 Proclus of Rome: Ow. Man at Arms: Proclus is wearing armor? Proclus of Rome: No. 5 + 2 + 0 + 5 Man at Arms: Your Terram Form bonus is your Terram score / 5 Proclus of Rome: OH. Ok. Well then it's 8. Lodewig of Tytalus: still, that's an impressive 0 damage total Man at Arms: Wjew, good thing this guy rolled shitty Lodewig of Tytalus: you're not even shaken, somehow Man at Arms: Aristocritus is next Proclus of Rome: Man after rolling cold for three months in Pendragon I've earned it. Lodewig of Tytalus: perhaps he's hesitant to murder an old-looking young man armed with a bag Aristocritus of Trianoma: it's wizard time. magus time. Man at Arms: dammit I tried to deal in Bonfilia and it messed up the whole turn order whatever Ferris of Trianoma: This music is rockin Proclus of Rome: Go for his weak, stick-like legs. Aristocritus of Trianoma: i'm casting Hands of the Grasping Earth, rete 15 Lodewig of Tytalus: http://badgame.net/index.php?topic=26550.msg9820110#msg9820110 I had planned a much more comprehensive introduction to violence for next week, sorry for forcing this Man at Arms: lol Aristocritus of Trianoma: rolling 1d10! + 13 + 1 - 3 ( 1 ) +13+1-3 = 12 Proclus of Rome: Good stuff. Aristocritus of Trianoma: piss Man at Arms: rolling 3d10 ( 10 + 7 + 4 ) = 21 No botch Lodewig of Tytalus: oh shit! Man at Arms: What's your penetration? Aristocritus of Trianoma: 5 Lodewig of Tytalus: looks like a successful cast, with d10!+penetration penetration and you take a fatigue Aristocritus of Trianoma: rolling 1d10! +5 ( 8 ) +5 = 13 Man at Arms: This guy has 0 MR but I just wanted to make sure penetration wasn't negative Lodewig of Tytalus: but does this guy really have MR wait does he have 0 MR or no MR? Man at Arms: because we're assuming christians have 0 MR in dominion? that was your suggestion BR Lodewig of Tytalus: oh that was voted down actually Man at Arms: Ok, good, I don't like it actually lol so no matter what it hits this guy Aristocritus of Trianoma: nice Man at Arms: Earthen hands break out of the ground and grapple the guy's ankles. He can attack and defend but not move. Ferris! Lodewig of Tytalus: shit, good move. I was just going to impale him with this staff Aristocritus of Trianoma: the hands have only four fingers. very important Proclus of Rome: Man the turn order is screwed up. Man at Arms: no no it's good now Ferris of Trianoma: I'm going to peer around the corner and crystal dart him Man at Arms: trust me Proclus of Rome: Are you telling me that suit matters?! Lodewig of Tytalus: only as a tiebreaker Proclus of Rome: Oh wait if this guy is "all tied up" then Lodewig can just go steal the other guy's face. Aristocritus of Trianoma: how does fast casting work with the deck-of-cards-based initiative Man at Arms: :| Lodewig of Tytalus: WELL Ferris of Trianoma: Actually I'm going to Curse of the Unruly Tongue him Lodewig of Tytalus: you need to fast-cast if you want to Ferris of Trianoma: So he doesn't yell out something stupid. Lodewig of Tytalus: a) interrupt someone else's turn, which requires you to delay your action Man at Arms: Okay Ferris roll it, -3 from Aura Lodewig of Tytalus: or b) do something else in addition to casting a spell on your turn Ferris of Trianoma: rolling 1d10! +14 - 3 ( 9 ) +14-3 = 20 Man at Arms: He starts blubbering and babbling incomprehensibly Bonfilia can go if prinny is here Lodewig of Tytalus: suspicions allayed Man at Arms: going once Bonfilia of Verditius: well Man at Arms: ah cool Bonfilia of Verditius: is there anything to do Man at Arms: Friendly reminder, Proclus leads the covenants in murders with 1 (one) Fatality on record Proclus of Rome: It was definitely a murder because I could have just given him all my stuff. Aristocritus of Trianoma: there's no way the clerk hasn't noticed this Bonfilia of Verditius: okay Lodewig of Tytalus: well, this guy's disarmed but we'll need to kidnap, kill or mindwipe him if we don't want Conti to have incontrovertible evidence of our interference Bonfilia of Verditius: I'll cast Trap of the Entwining Vines CrHe 15 R: Voice, D: Sun, T: Group Causes strong, woody vines to grow rapidly from fertile earth. The vines cover a circle 2 paces across and reach 6 feet high. Anything caught within them is immobilized. To avoid the vines, the target must make a Quickness – Encumbrance stress roll of 9+. To break out requires a Strength stress roll of 12+ (allowed once a round). Someone not trapped can cut a trapped person free in two rounds, assuming proper tools. The vines weaken and wither to dust at sunrise or sunset. (Base 1, +2 Voice, +2 Sun, +2 Group) rolling d10!+3+9+6 ( 4 ) +3+9+6 = 22 Man at Arms: im going to assume that stacks with the Terram spell aristocritus cast so he needs two successful strength rolls to get free now Lodewig of Tytalus: seems fair Man at Arms: The guy is helpless at this point. No need for init order anymore, do as you will Lodewig of Tytalus: alright I hop down "well you didn't all need to show that fellow your faces, but nice work I suppose" "someone take his gear, and sort out what to do with the carcass" Proclus of Rome: Well, we could always kidnap him instead of killing him. Lodewig of Tytalus: I go and confront the clerk Ferris of Trianoma: I disguise my face as the Man at Arms face, just to mess with him. Proclus of Rome: No one can change his memories, right? Ferris of Trianoma: We can erase them With murder Lodewig of Tytalus: I want to bully or entrance this nerd into giving me his clothes and surrendering, does this need a roll? Man at Arms: the clerk hid behind some boxes during the fight but you corner him he's in no shape to resist Lodewig of Tytalus: "Where is the rest of the contraband taken?" Man: "The chaplain took the books" Lodewig of Tytalus: I curse germanically Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Can I take a look at the covenant map? Ferris of Trianoma: "Then what are you cateloging?" Lodewig of Tytalus: well what's the play with these mooks? murder? deportation? enslavement beneath the earth? Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Well, we could lock them in the unused room. Man: "The other wares, this guy was a leather and cloth merchant normally, I don't know why he was dealing in books" Proclus of Rome: I mean, I don't want to kill Enzo and the man at arms if we can avoid it. Lodewig of Tytalus: I'm not keen on the idea myself, although I recognise this as a weakness in me Ferris of Trianoma: Well, this is going to come back to us pretty quickly if we leave them be. Best case scenario we buy them off. Man: Enzo has not seen any of your real faces, the Guard has seen everyone's except Lodewig's Proclus of Rome: Enzo has seen all of our faces when we went to the Militia Tower with him. Man: You haven't identified yourself as the same people yet though I guess asking about the books is a little suspicious Lodewig of Tytalus: well, he can infer we're the magi of vardian's tomb probably if he's not a moron Proclus of Rome: He might be. Man: mmm this is a pretty pickle. Proclus of Rome: Well, you know these things happen. Bonfilia of Verditius: "Just kill him." Proclus of Rome: We should definitely disarm and disrobe the man-at-arms first in any case. johns (GM): between the vines and the grappling earth there's little he can do to stop you Lodewig of Tytalus: I think I might be able to change thoughts or memories, but I realise as I say it the effect wouldn't be permanent Proclus of Rome: Would it be? Why do you say that? Lodewig of Tytalus: muto effects can't be and a spont spell can hardly last beyond sun, if i'm lucky Proclus of Rome: Can't you do a Perdo Mentem effect? Lodewig of Tytalus: muto is my forte mentem and perdo are not Proclus of Rome: Hmm. I have 5 in each. Lodewig of Tytalus: you might do something with a ceremonial effect Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Aristocritus of Trianoma: what if you yell really loudly while performing the ceremony Proclus of Rome: Well I can definitely do that. Aristocritus of Trianoma: that's like +2, right Proclus of Rome: +3. Not the yelling, but I can use a Line range to give myself +3. The question is how do we get them back to the covenant? johns (GM): It can be done using Bonfilia's hay cart and the darkness of night Proclus of Rome: We could stuff them into these boxes. johns (GM): good idea too Proclus of Rome: Well, we don't know when someone is going to check up on them. We really just need to get them into the catacombs and then we can take them the rest of the way in secret. Bonfilia of Verditius: I sigh audibly. "Maybe we should just kill them." johns (GM): i feel bad things got to this but I did not expect you to keep insulting that guy to his face so welp Proclus of Rome: It is what it is. This is what happens when keeping it real goes wrong. johns (GM): lol Aristocritus of Trianoma: i could have just flung a rock at the guy's skull then we would be in a different mess, instead of this one. Ferris of Trianoma: How far are we from the catacombs? And how secluded of an area is this? johns (GM): if you'd attacked him head and won you'd still have to deal with the fallout of a Quaesitorial investigation proclus, area lore roll plz Proclus of Rome: Ok. rolling 1d10! + 8 -1 +2 ( 6 ) +8-1+2 = 15 johns (GM): rolling 1d10 ( 6 ) = 6 Aristocritus of Trianoma: everyone else is running around murdering thugs and sacrificing children! Proclus of Rome: Those are both totally different. johns (GM): You can find catacomb access close enough to stealthily carry them off, as per the map it's about a mile back home through the passages Proclus of Rome: Ok. Ferris of Trianoma: I mean, we haven't actually harmed these guys in an ways. We could just say we wanted to find what was ours and let them go. Proclus of Rome: I don't think that would work since we did attack them. Ferris of Trianoma: Subdued. Aristocritus of Trianoma: people are generally not happy about being entranced Proclus of Rome: I mean I assume di Conti isn't going to be happy with this no matter what. Ferris of Trianoma: We are likely to be blamed if these guys disappear, even entirely silently. Proclus of Rome: Well, we could just admit what we've done but we would for sure face harsh retribution from the di Conti family. Trying to wipe their memories seems like the better option. Ferris of Trianoma: I'm guessing that is a foregone conclusion. Aristocritus of Trianoma: there's only one solution: have the capoccis summon the devil Ferris of Trianoma: I agree, of all options, wiping their memories is the best possible outcome. Proclus of Rome: I think I can pull it off. I have +10 PeMe, +5 casting bonus in the covenant, + 7 Ceremonial casting and a +3 bonus if I use the Line range. Aristocritus of Trianoma: plus the yelling bonus Proclus of Rome: Right. johns (GM): covenant aura is +3 Ferris of Trianoma: Alright, I'm down to try it. Proclus of Rome: Right. +3 +2 stamina. johns (GM): ok ok When you are sponting magic, you can roll your arts first and then determine what effect you do after seeing what numbers you get (so if you want to do a high level effect but roll shitty you can still do a low level effect of the same arts) Boy R. (GM): alright I can add opening pdfs to the list of things that makes me need to reboot my laptop johns (GM): PeMe Base 4 +1 touch will remove an important detail from their memory of the attack, PeMe Base 10+1 touch will remove the memory entirely Proclus of Rome: Ok. Aristocritus of Trianoma: you'd have to cover the attack, the trip to the covenant, and the ritual, wouldn't you Proclus of Rome: What's all this business about yelling? johns (GM): You can also spend vis to boost, +2 per pawn, we don't have Perdo or Mentem on hand so it'd have to be Untyped Aristocritus of Trianoma: well. the ceremony not the ritual Proclus of Rome: Yes. johns (GM): mmm I suppose "Level 10: Remove a minor or short memory from a person’s mind." "Level 15: Remove a major or long memory from a person’s mind." alternatively, Muto Mentem: Level 15: Remove a major or long memory from a person’s mind. Proclus of Rome: This would be level 10 since it just happened. It's a short term memory. johns (GM): though MuMe needs a duration like BR pointed out ealrier so forget it Ferris of Trianoma: Repeated death threats would probably be a major event to a normal person. johns (GM): L10 +1 mag for touch so L15, you have to get 30 or better on a spont Proclus of Rome: Hmm. I can't use a Line for that. Aristocritus of Trianoma: words and gestures, unless they're houseruled http://i.imgur.com/8im7sWC.png johns (GM): hooting & hollering bonus Boy R.: does your bonus to cast at Line outweigh the extra magnitudes it adds over a simple touch spell? no hooting and hollering is real and strong Proclus of Rome: Can I use a Circle target for this effect? Since the duration is momentary, I assume I can't. Boy R.: you can I guess that saves you having to do it twice Proclus of Rome: Oh great, that's enough for +3. Ok so I have 10 + 2 + 3 + 1 +1 + 3 + 4 +3. johns (GM): and confs Boy R.: 27+d10, target is 30 well there you go, no need even to burn vis I'm glad I escalated after all johns (GM): if you use confs you don't have to take them back to the covenant to do it even so that would be an easier memory to replae Proclus of Rome: 10 PeMe, +2 Stamina, +3 Aura, +1 Loud, + 1 Gesticulate, + 3 Philosophy, +4 Artes Liberales, +3 circle. johns (GM): err destroy Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Well without going to the covenant I take a -3 Dominion penalty. johns (GM): ok Proclus of Rome: BUT, I have a map of all the auras in Rome. Boy R.: that;s a net -6, but you save 5 levels? Proclus of Rome: Is there a nearby magical or faerie aura? johns (GM): no he needs L15 for the most basic memory wipe Boy R.: ah johns (GM): roll dat lore Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10! + 8 +2 + 2 ( 6 ) +8+2+2 = 18 johns (GM): You can find a faerie 2 aura at an old shrine not far Proclus of Rome: Hmm ok. Good for memory manipulation. So what's that, +2? johns (GM): +1 Proclus of Rome: Ok. johns (GM): fae gives half aura bonus Proclus of Rome: Alright. So I'm at 25. Boy R.: they awake on a hillside, having vague memories of dancing all night, and discover when they get home that it's been 70 years Proclus of Rome: It takes 15 minutes per magnitude. Ok. Here goes. rolling 1d10! + 25 ( 8 ) +25 = 33 johns (GM): yay/ Boy R.: it takes 1 minute per magnitude, because Mercurian Magic now has the benefit of that one minor virtue that does that Proclus of Rome: Ok phew. johns (GM): and since you didn't actually wound these guys there's no indication anything went wrong they just blipped out part of their memory Boy R.: sweet johns (GM): Still... After all that we are kinda back to square 1, and it is getting late in the evening Proclus of Rome: Too true. Boy R.: yeah sorry this has kind of been a mes johns (GM): How should we resolve this? Continue it next week or drop the matter? Proclus of Rome: Well, this misadventure has gotten quite out of hand. No we're out 50 libra. johns (GM): I am happy to do whatever the players would like Boy R.: welll.... we can't afford to let this drop Proclus of Rome: I mean florins. Boy R.: and there's too many ways this infiltration could go wrong Proclus of Rome: Yep. johns (GM): You've spent 68 florins and are missing 2 good books Boy R.: and libra is more accurate than florins johns (GM): yeah sorry Proclus of Rome: Sorry I meant drachma. Boy R.: argh! johns (GM): I did the math and I think 10 florins roughly comes out to 1 pound of silver which is 1 libra so you've spent 680 florins Proclus of Rome: How much is that in pfennigs? Boy R.: i like to say pounds, because we're speaking english and that's what the game uses Darvin: Next session stealth mission to go book stealing? johns (GM): Euros ducats Proclus of Rome: Wait, can you just steal their faces while I'm wiping their memories? Boy R.: have ducats been invented? yeah sure Proclus of Rome: Well that's a good start. johns (GM): However you want to proceed is up to you and you can take the full week in the thread to decide if you don't want to commit to something now Boy R.: I just don't know if johns is cool with handwaving an entire infiltraiton mission johns (GM): Don't you need the guy's arms and armor to complete the disguise? Proclus of Rome: Well it definitely seems like it could cover a full session. cthinker: we took those didn't we johns (GM): you'd have to give them back if you don't want him to be suspicious about the missing block of memory Boy R.: yes. ferris and lodewig are dressed as these dudes Proclus of Rome: Well, if you can get your mission done in 11 minutes or less there wouldn't be a problem. johns (GM): If I get this right, you erase the details of the attack, but they're still knocked out or incapaciated or whatever? Boy R.: actually I don't think we knocked them out at any point lol cast another ceremony to put them to sleep Proclus of Rome: Well they'd have to be incapacitated to keep them from breaking the circle. cthinker: i can still take out a wall if you need me to. Proclus of Rome: Well let's discuss it in the thread. cthinker: actually once i finally use my seasons maybe i can muto something Boy R.: that's how it goes thanks for running johns Proclus of Rome: Yeah, great work! johns (GM): thank you for being wonderful players and always surprising me cthinker: gg Darvin: Yea, thanks again for these great sessions Johns! Boy R.: since it seems like we'll be keeping on with this scenario, I'll put full combat rule on the wiki, though you know you can reject/replace any of it Proclus of Rome: We need a spell to make Bonfillia fall unconcious. Boy R.: we should probably rethink our approaches if we're going to keep getting involved with important people johns (GM): mmmaybe. Boy R.: it's like everyone assumes everyone else will do the intrigue so it's their responsibility to be the instigator I know that's my MO Proclus of Rome: Not mine! I like being polite. johns (GM): I said it was Animal & Terram books you got and the Rego & Vim that were intercepted? Proclus of Rome: Yes. So should we do two seasons or what? johns (GM): Spring, Summer, and Autumn Darvin: We adventured in Spring and Winter right? Proclus of Rome: Ok. johns (GM): I'll post some info in the thread so you don't forget between now and then Proclus of Rome: Ok. Great! Darvin: So we are continuing Winter next session? johns (GM): Yeah Proclus of Rome: It happens. johns (GM): Actually cthinker: the year is 1317 right johns (GM): Yeah, next is Winter 1317 cthinker: all right johns (GM): sorry if midyear splits are confusing cthinker: also, i'd like to recruit an agent Proclus of Rome: Nah. It makes sense to me. johns (GM): Awesome, a specific character or a generic one? cthinker: it makes sense, it's just that i'm going through every season from the beginning to now all at once i was thinking the captain of a ship Darvin: I feel like it was mentioned at the beginning of the session, but should we not worry about double booking a particular book for a season? johns (GM): Don't worry about it cthinker: a captain might actually be too hard to get with my shitty abilities johns (GM): any time you get adventure XP you can count it towards agent bonds, even if the agent isn't involved in the story? cthinker: what's the social penalty of the gift again, 5? Proclus of Rome: Yes. Ok, bye. johns (GM): Yes hm where'd my roll go rolling 1d10!+1-5 ( 9 ) +1-5 = 5 piss johns (GM): Do you have any leadership? cthinker: don't think so can i use a confidence point johns (GM): Yeah I think so, since it's not a seasonal activity (and realistically you can't pass the roll without spending it right now heh) cthinker: nice so, i impressed a ship captain, and now uh uhhhhh i have no idea. johns (GM): haha im trying to learn these rules as I go too cthinker: looks like i have to overcome his resistance, and then we can build a bond mmm. johns (GM): Does the Ship Captain have any major flaws you're exploiting? His base resistance is +1 for Minor Social Virture probably +1 for half a dozen underlings (his crew) +1 for any minor virtues you want him to have and +3 for any major virtues you want him to have Ship Captain: gave him a token cthinker: looks like it requires a bare minimum of one story to get an agent anyway Ship Captain: yeah, hm cthinker: so i can figure that out later Ship Captain: Though now that we have an idea you want this guy to be recruited BR & I & whoever else know to work him into a story soon cthinker: all i want to do is have someone tell me about recent shipwrecks! Ship Captain: hey actually didn't you come to Ostia on a boat back in 1314 cthinker: oh, yeah Bonfilia of Verditius: so what did we do to the man-at-arms/noble situation I dozed off Ship Captain: they blanked his memory cthinker: wiped their memories Ship Captain: and we're gonna resolve it next week cause it's late cthinker: of the fight Bonfilia of Verditius: it is super late here Ship Captain: sorry prin Bonfilia of Verditius: its fine just saying thats why i dozed off Ship Captain: once again, I was worried this session would be too short and it wound up going long cthinker: do we get adventure xp Ship Captain: not yet I have the character sheet from my old ship captain character of last campaign, should I just use that to assign virtues/flaws for your agent? cthinker: sounds good Boy R.: well it seemed like the entire thing was a lead in to meeting a book merchant, I didn't realise there were going to be problems to deal with after that so I went off the rails a bit oh shit it's Jack Triton scourge of the english channel Bonfilia of Verditius: lol Ship Captain: yar Boy R.: we should do epilogues for some of the old characters Bonfilia of Verditius: was triton the guy who got shot by vrichish and tossed into the sea Ship Captain: that was Eustace the Monk triton was the good guy pirate on your side Bonfilia of Verditius: right Ship Captain: okay changing him from "Outlaw Leader" to "Mercenary Captain" since I assume cthinker wants someone respectable Bonfilia of Verditius: vrichish is probably really big by now, having become the business baron of brittany i bet he can afford a lot of vis Ship Captain: A Mercenary Captain with Underlings and Social Contacts has resistance strength of +3 so it'd take 6 points to bring his resistance to 0 cthinker: respectable is good Ship Captain: what kind of bond are you having, you want to impress or threaten or string him along with money? Bonfilia of Verditius: did the rude noble take the infernal books into custody too? or just our books cthinker: the infernal books were already delivered to the other noble, i think Ship Captain: Just your books, those books got delivered to Capocci the day after you met JAcapo cthinker: hang on which season was the capocci kid thing again Bonfilia of Verditius: then I send a letter to Capocci asking about his thoughts on the monk one since I knew it from memory, establishing a pen pal relationship johns (GM): Sure, make a note of that somewhere You can easily get an A/C to him that way if that's your goal too Bonfilia of Verditius: it cant hurt, can it cthinker: i suppose i'd like to impress him, or, failing that, impress him with money johns (GM): Okay cthinker: behold: the guy who spent the entire year of 1316 locked in his lab reading the same book are you impressed yet johns (GM): I bet he's impressed you can read, period cthinker: true all right. i've got my seasons lined up johns (GM): would you be interested in recording your char sheet online somewhere? I have a template endrite & I have been using with google docs cthinker: yeah i need to spreadsheetify it johns (GM): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w9fvtlbm76darTcxy3PNBOQe5nQyos7D8WyOuvw5j4s/edit?usp=sharing cthinker: ty johns (GM): l8r all Endrite: Oh boy treasure. Oh, I see it's treasure for ants. Prinny D. (GM): I have no idea what it's for oh now I get it that's really neat if you double click the item in your loot bag you zoom in on it its the +3 cloak we all own Endrite: Oh. Prinny D. (GM): Cool Beans Endrite: Good stuff. cthinker: cumthinker's magus here. cool compass rose Endrite: Nice try Boy Reporter! Boy R. (GM): it was worth a try idk why they call it stealing cards when it can only happen consensually Endrite: To stoke the embers of Avarice. johns (GM): i tried putting the chatlog on the wiki but I can't get it to upload with proper line breaks Endrite: Oh no. Boy R. (GM): weird johns (GM): if I paste it into the regular wiki page editor it crashed the browser Boy R. (GM): i'll do that now Endrite: Have you tried murdering the Roll20 devs with knives and bazookas? johns (GM): we'll do it at roll20 con, endrite Endrite: What if you paste it into a txt file and then upload from there? Boy R. (GM): on stream johns (GM): that's what I did to get it to actually upload, but that strips out the line breaks same with pasting it into a google doc word file Endrite: Hmm. johns (GM): oh as for the treasure cards I thought they'd be cool to track enchanted items as well as consumables like theriacs and charged items Prinny D.: yeah its good shit it'll be useful for when I make equipment items instead of area items johns (GM): i didn't realize this until I looked up the place on google maps but the Conti's tower practically overlooks one of our vis sources, Trajan's column cthinker: nice Endrite: Pretty interesting. Wait which vis source is Trajan's Column? johns (GM): Animal a magical bird lays an egg there Bonfilia of Verditius: we should capture that bird Endrite: Oh. johns (GM): haven't you heard of the Goose that Lays the Vis Egg Bonfilia of Verditius: I am a country bumpkin with little to no knowledge. Endrite: AFK johns (GM): since we're jumping into 1318 shortly should people allocate seasons for 1317 now? Bonfilia of Verditius: I know what I'll be doing so I'll just post those seasons in the thread johns (GM): then ill go ahead too Lavinia of Jerbiton: rolling 1d10!+3 study terram ( 9 ) +3 = 12 arion voice: ~umai!~ rolling 1d10!+2+11 Refining Lab ( 10 + 1 ) +2+11 = 24 Bonfilia of Verditius: can you refine lab and take adventure xp in the same season Lavinia of Jerbiton: dont see why not unless the adventure was a big distraction Bonfilia of Verditius: got to stat up my lab Lavinia of Jerbiton: i'm assuming the ease factor for getting "highly organized" increased by 5/3 sp ot so it'd be 20 now instead of 12 Bonfilia of Verditius: what would a breadbasket of infinite holding be muhe or rehe Lavinia of Jerbiton: depends how it mechanically works magi of hermes has a object similar to that that uses muto but the drawback is it doesn't decrease object weight, only size Bonfilia of Verditius: yikes you could make one for weight and one for size though right two enchantments Lavinia of Jerbiton: i think so that'd be a lot simpler than Rego which I assume is teleporting them to somewhere else? cause i dunno how that'd work if you want to reach your hand in Bonfilia of Verditius: do you remember what page its at Lavinia of Jerbiton: 126 though looking at it now it's a weird Faerie glamour effect Bonfilia of Verditius: well I could make an enchantment that targets all the bread put into the basket and shrinks them, and then add a trigger effect to it that lets me cancel it Lavinia of Jerbiton: yeah I think if you made it touch range/conc duration you wouldn't even need something to cancel the effect because it'd only last as long as the bread was touching the inside of the bag Bonfilia of Verditius: yeah do we have some sort of default lab virtue/flaws setup since we all have the same start more or less Lavinia of Jerbiton: Subterranean which is a shitty blow to health & upkeep but +1 for Terram focus Bonfilia of Verditius: rolling d10!+3+12 ( 1 ) +3+12 = 16 oh shit a botch johns (GM): :( Bonfilia of Verditius: how many botch die johns (GM): 1 is the default so rolling 1d10 ( 1 ) = 1 .. :/ Bonfilia of Verditius: rip lab johns (GM): Hidden Defect: -3 to safety the lab's refinement still goes up by 1 I think Bonfilia of Verditius: yeah it does cthinker: is that the first botch of the game oh wait, i got the first botch i think johns (GM): you can get an easy +2 to safety by buying Extensive Stores, it's a minor virtues but it only costs money instead of a season of work Bonfilia of Verditius: I finish the Beggar's Breakfast this year, which is a terrifying trap for greedy grogs and a great boon for the virtuous. johns (GM): do the grogs lose leprosy if they stop being gluttonous Bonfilia of Verditius: no johns (GM): oh well! Bonfilia of Verditius: if they fail the ease factor roll they probably die except, you know, the bread increases their recovery totals so they'll recover from the disease johns (GM): that's fine by me, we don't need fat and lazy grogs oh and if you blow up your lab now due to the hidden defect you get an easier EF to get rid of the flaw hail Ropekid Bonfilia of Verditius: I have a pretty absurd magic theory so I should be able to remove the hidden defect next year Joshua S.: hail char almost done ~* just handling spellz Bonfilia of Verditius: whats the size of our labs johns (GM): im worried that BR's laptop died cause he left here & steam Joshua S.: oh nooo johns (GM): size 0 500 sq ft in theory you can expand lab size by digging down or by taking over adjacent crypt space Endrite: In theory, but that would be outside the magic aura. johns (GM): crap, good point well maybe we'll find a handy Magic Regio with boundless space some day cthinker: i was thinking of tunneling into the empty adjacent lab Endrite: You could always construct a Mind Palace and then put a lab in it. Imaginary Labs are VERY cheap to maintain. johns (GM): lol Endrite: -6 Upkeep! johns (GM): i want to see the lab that is a mental construct but has positive upkeep Endrite: Some fatso's lab. johns (GM): I feel a little weird starting without Boy Reporter since he was planning to join the heist in disguise Who else can magically disguise themselves in this crew? Joshua S.: hmm Proclus of Rome: Not I. That's a palindrome, you know. johns (GM): only if you are addressing Tony Soprano in a familiar way Bonfilia of Verditius: can I take the free Person virtue, somebody who visits my lab every day for at least an hour, for my husband/son? johns (GM): sure Joshua S.: what's our aura btw? johns (GM): Magic 3 Joshua S.: cool thx johns (GM): Okay, if magical disguise is a problem, anyone got ideas on another method of infiltration, or perhaps an alternate approach? The aura around the tower is Dominion 2 during the day & Infernal 2 by night Bonfilia of Verditius: lets bust in at night I have a spell that opens any wooden doors Proclus of Rome: We just need to find out where the donjon is and we can then tunnel in, I believe. johns (GM): that could work, what kind of tunneling powers do you have? Proclus of Rome: I thought someone had them but I might be incorrect. We only have 3 magi so it might be tricky. johns (GM): Aleseta is here now or will be complete shortly I assume Bonfilia of Verditius: I don't have any tunneling spells but I could probably spont one my PeTe is 13 Joshua S.: very soon! johns (GM): I said yesterday part of the catacomb network comes nearish to the tower, yeah? By night you can assume a mundane (0 aura) in the area Proclus of Rome: Interesting. Joshua S.: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58877228/AM5_Aleseta.pdf johns (GM): Goat Lady Proclus of Rome: Pagan? Hmm. You could sneak a tiny animal into the tower. Wait can you talk to animals? Joshua S.: Mayhaps! Proclus of Rome: You could ask a rat where the donjon is. Bonfilia of Verditius: I can easily spont spells to break down walls or tunnel out earth/stone so no worries about that Joshua S.: Are we assuming I am here/introduced/etc? johns (GM): If you like Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Salve." johns (GM): It might be good for one of the players to bring you up to speed on why exactly we're up to no good Aleseta of Bonisagus: yes! cthinker: cumthinker's magus here again Bonfilia of Verditius: "Some noble decided to imprison a bookseller who owes us two books. Now, we must break him out of prison." Aleseta of Bonisagus: "Seems sensible. And we are looking for a way in?" Proclus of Rome: Well, here's what happened: Bonfilia has to keep it real at all times so we had to engage in some light kidnapping to get our money back from a satanist we bought books from. Aleseta of Bonisagus: laf Bonfilia of Verditius: It is what it is. johns (GM): hey, let's be fair, Ferris helped piss the guy off too Proclus of Rome: True, true. Aleseta of Bonisagus: are there rats about? johns (GM): You betcha Bonfilia of Verditius: We need to find where he is, then we can just break down the walls until we get in. Aleseta of Bonisagus: hmm. it would be easier if rats were domesticated animals... johns (GM): Okay so specifically, the bookseller is a weird guy named Jacapo who you met on an unrelated task. He got 2 of the books you ordered to you but before the last 2 arrived, he was arrested by the Conti family who have seized the contents of the merchant's warehouse Proclus of Rome: I can't think of an animal more used to living with people. johns (GM): The Magi (everyone except Lavinia & Aleseta) met with the Barone Torquato di Conti, who explained that his court chaplain found heresies in Jacapo's goods Aleseta of Bonisagus: STORYGUIDE CALL: rats: domesticated animals??? Aristocritus of Trianoma: we need that vis book. johns (GM): then the magi pissed him off and got kicked out into the streets Aristocritus of Trianoma: more than we need jacopo, frankly johns (GM): I think rats are pretty feral imo Proclus of Rome: Specifically, we were helping the Cappoci family acquire books on what turned out to be Infernal Lore. Aleseta of Bonisagus: I want to use Opening the Tome of the Animal's Mind but it would be hard to cast in this aura. Bonfilia of Verditius: the aura is Inf 2 at night johns (GM): In the catacomb itself the aura is 0 (Dom 1 by day) Aleseta of Bonisagus: still hard i'd need a 9 with exaggerated gestures well, she'll try. Proclus of Rome: Hmm. johns (GM): remember that confs add +5 and you can spend vis Aleseta of Bonisagus: oh yeahhh conf dis johns (GM): we have 4 animal vis in storage atm Proclus of Rome: We don't have all that much vis especially if SOMEONE wants to make ridiculous bronze gladiators. Lavinia of Jerbiton: ill wait until Terram vis goes on sale ok??? Aleseta of Bonisagus: rolling d10+4+8+2+1+1+5 Opening the Tome of the Animal's Mind (Conf, H&H) ( 6 ) +4+8+2+1+1+5 = 27 Bonfilia of Verditius: Yeah stop spending vis on ridiculous and unpractical projects. takes a bite out of my aids bread Aleseta of Bonisagus: noice Proclus of Rome: Noice. Aristocritus of Trianoma: don't we know where the catacombs run close to the dungeon johns (GM): o i've crudely marked it on this map with a red line Aleseta of Bonisagus probes le rat mind for visions of prisoners Aleseta of Bonisagus: We know what this dude looks like, yeah? Proclus of Rome: Yes. Bonfilia of Verditius: yes Aleseta of Bonisagus: okay, so i'm probing for a "specific fact" (vision of this dude) somewhere in the dungeon. johns (GM): roll Perception + Finesse plz aleseta Aleseta of Bonisagus: rolling d10!+0+3 Need 10 no whammies ( 9 ) +0+3 = 12 yusss Rat: The rat know the basement of the Milizie tower well, as it has the kitchen & a storehouse in addition to the donjon Proclus of Rome: Thanks Rat. Aleseta of Bonisagus: sweet Rat: The donjon is a few obliettes put into the ground, the guy you are looking for is the only one there now. Aleseta of Bonisagus: SWEET RAT cool cool Bonfilia of Verditius: Excellent. Proclus of Rome: Ok. Bonfilia of Verditius: if we go down into the catacombs I can spont this spell to dig us where we need to go Proclus of Rome: So what is our plan when we meet Jacobus? Rat: You know the basic layout of the 1st floor from when you were thrown out and now you know the layout of the basement Bonfilia of Verditius: PIT OF THE GAPING EARTH R: Voice, D: Mom, T: Part The dirt in a circle 6 paces across recedes into the ground, leaving a pit 9 feet deep. If the target area contains material other than dirt, that material is not affected. (Base 3, +2 Voice, +1 Part, +1 size Proclus of Rome: Jacapo. Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice Proclus of Rome: I mean are we going to take him out of the donjon or what? Bonfilia of Verditius: or we could just use this spell and shatter the wall FIST OF SHATTERING R: Voice, D: Mom, T: Ind An object of stone or weaker material up to a pace across breaks apart. The appropriate Form for the target is a casting requisite. (Base 4, +2 Voice) Aristocritus of Trianoma: i can probably spont Rock of Viscid Clay Proclus of Rome: I think I'll ask the more pertinent question: who are you willing to kill to rescue Jacapo? Rat: said in the Jigsaw voice Aleseta of Bonisagus: haha Bonfilia of Verditius: Whoever gets in our way is up for killing, in Bonfilia's opinion. Proclus of Rome: You know my opinion. We shouldn't kill anyone. We don't even know if Jacapo belongs here or not. Bonfilia of Verditius: Killing people is the best way to keep them from being trouble in the future. Proclus of Rome: He might be a diabolist. Aleseta of Bonisagus: diabloist "Well, it shouldn't have to come to killing, should it?" Proclus of Rome: It's wrong to kill people, not to mention how upset the Contis will be. It isn't like we can just get away from them, is what I'm saying. I certainly hope not. Rat: ah sorry to rewind a bit but You had the two conti prisoners and Proclus mindwiped them, I assume you knocked them out or something Proclus of Rome: Yes. Rat: do you want to steal their shit or leave them as is? cause memories erased they would notice the former when they wake up Proclus of Rome: I thought we agreed to leave them at the warehouse. Rat: kk np Proclus of Rome: Since our face thief isn't here there is no reason to take their stuff. Bonfilia of Verditius: Let's just play it by ear. If we can stop them without murder, then that's fine I guess. (From Proclus of Rome): You betcha. (From Proclus of Rome): +4 Rat: As Proclus knows architecture you can tunnel either into the Donjon or into the specific Oubliette cell in the ground and not worry about collapsing the building Proclus of Rome: We should just go for the Oubliette cel. Bonfilia of Verditius: then lets just tunnel into the cell and spring our boy the satanist Proclus of Rome: l Aleseta of Bonisagus: bad bois of satanism Proclus of Rome: Then the guards will have a more difficult time following us and the damage to the Militia Tower won't be too great. Rat: How big a hole are you makin' Aristocritus of Trianoma: we can probably fill in the gap on our way out even Rat: also I just remembered you have an Arcane Connection to this guy that Giacopo swiped if that helps at all Proclus of Rome: That's true. But I don't imagine it would. In this specific instance. Rat: K, well if you're sponting a spell or casting it or whatnot, roll some bones brb Bonfilia of Verditius: well do you want to dig Aristocritus Aristocritus of Trianoma: hmm Proclus of Rome: I can try, but I have to do it ritually. Aristocritus of Trianoma: if i do it we'll have to actually manually dig the softened rock, like grogs Proclus of Rome: I think Aristocritus should do it. I'm not too proud. Bonfilia of Verditius: I'll have my husband do it. Proclus of Rome: Why wouldn't I help dig? Aristocritus of Trianoma: gimme a second to look up the one dozen tiny bonuses i need to add Proclus of Rome: What else do I have to do here that's more important? Bonfilia of Verditius: I don't want to soil these artisan hands. Proclus of Rome: How silly. Aristocritus of Trianoma: aura is 0 at night, right Proclus of Rome: Yes, Rat: as if Bonfilia isn't putting dirt in her bread already to add weight Bonfilia of Verditius: Well, that's different. Aristocritus of Trianoma: all right rolling 1d10!+9+7+1+3 ( 10 + 4 ) +9+7+1+3 = 34 nice Rat: i need a little fanfare sound for when the dice explode Bonfilia of Verditius: good rolls Rat: okay you can shape and mold the bedrock like mud Aleseta of Bonisagus: explodes a cast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdqjcMmjeaA Proclus of Rome: Ok, let's get to digging. Rat: Using the rat's advice and Proclus' keen sense of geometry you dig.. Proclus of Rome: Is the rat a new grog? Aleseta of Bonisagus: ratvice Rat: The Oubliette is a small hole in the floor, not even large enough for a man to sit without having to hug their knees to their chest. At the top is a metal grille leading to the donjon where you see light and hear some people are above Inside the Oubliette is Jacapo, nude and a bit beaten up, looking pretty worse the wear Aleseta of Bonisagus averts her eyes from the naked male form and then remembers she doesn't have to do that. WOOWOOWOWWOW Proclus of Rome: Ok. Is he awake? Jacapo: He wakes up as you slide the walls of his cell aside and stares at you agog Aristocritus of Trianoma whispers "Jacapo." Jacapo: Whispering, "Who is it? I can't see" Proclus of Rome: It's me, Proclus of Rome. Jacapo: "Get me out of here, please!" Bonfilia of Verditius: "Pick him up and let's go. Proclus of Rome: Ok. No problem. Jacapo: Okay, you pull the merchant into your tunnels Bonfilia of Verditius: it would be nice if we could creo terram the wall back or at least some dirt its level 15 iirc Aleseta of Bonisagus: TOO RICH FOR MY BLOOD Aristocritus of Trianoma: the stone is soft until sunrise Proclus of Rome: Well, it's always more difficult to fill in a hole than to empty it out. Jacapo: that's deep Bonfilia of Verditius: well since we didnt perdo the stone we can just put the mud back Aristocritus of Trianoma: we can just sort of pile it back up in the tunnel. it'll stand out but they won't be able to follow us Bonfilia of Verditius: until it hardens Proclus of Rome: Yep. How long will that take? Jacapo: rolling 1d6 ( 4 ) = 4 4 hours Proclus of Rome: Hmm. HMMMMMMM. Well, the guards haven't noticed us yet so we might as well go for it. Bonfilia of Verditius: just start at the cell and work our way back Jacapo: Sure Aristocritus of Trianoma: Do you know where our books are, Jacapo? Jacapo: "Please get me some clothes and food, first." Aristocritus of Trianoma: mundanes!! Jacapo: "I need to get out of the city soon. Do you have a horse?" Aleseta of Bonisagus: a horse made of books motherfucker!!! Proclus of Rome: Do we have a horse? Aleseta of Bonisagus: that would be very valuable now that i think about it Bonfilia of Verditius: "Provide us with the books or you'll end up in a cell far worse than the one we dug you from." Proclus of Rome: Well, that isn't very fair. You could provide us with the story of how you came to be imprisoned. Jacapo: "The Conti chaplain was waiting with some men at the warehouse when I came into the city a week ago. He took the books, tossed me in here, and interrogated me about where they came from." Proclus of Rome: Where did they come from? Jacapo: "I shouldn't reveal that.. I can tell you my source explicitly wanted privacy, that's why he dealt through me." Proclus of Rome: Did you tell the Contis where you got your books? Jacapo: "N-no." Bonfilia of Verditius: "We could just reach into your mind and pull that information out of you unwillingly. But it'd save us time, and be less painful, if you just told us here and now." Aristocritus of Trianoma silently piles up globs of stone. Jacapo: "Ah" "Well" "It was a teacher, in Bologna" "He said he had access to a library of very special books.. He would borrow the originals, make a copy, then ask me to sell them and we'd split the money" "Normally I just sell leatherware and hides, not books" Bonfilia of Verditius: "Interesting. He provided you with both the books we bought and the ones meant for Capocci?" Jacapo: "Yes" Aristocritus of Trianoma: is there a covenant near bologna Bonfilia of Verditius: yes Proclus of Rome: How did you meet your librarian in Bologna? Aristocritus of Trianoma: it's not the one the certamen guy was from is it Bonfilia of Verditius: Literatus is at Bologna Jacapo: The guy stealing your vis is a Guernicus from Magvillus covenant in the kingdom of naples Proclus of Rome: That fucking guy! Aleseta of Bonisagus: nooooo!! Jacapo: "We were actually from the same village. I didn't really know him but he remembered me when I was passing through Bologna and we struck a deal then." kewl token Proclus of Rome: Ok. Do you still have our money? Jacapo: "Does it look like I have money on me?" Proclus of Rome: No. Aleseta of Bonisagus: ass florins Proclus of Rome: Good point. Bonfilia of Verditius: "Then I suppose you owe us a debt." "How are you planning on repaying it?" Jacapo: "Take it up with the Contis, they took your goods." "You only paid me 75% of the total price anyway." Proclus of Rome: Alright. Well, we can certainly get you out of the city, in that case. We don't have any horses, unfortunately. Bonfilia of Verditius: I smack him with my walking stick. "Arrogant mundane! What kind of situation do you think you're in here? You will repay us, or suffer. You say you know the man who gave you these books? You will lead us to him." Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice Proclus of Rome: Wow. Aleseta of Bonisagus: abuse ftw Proclus of Rome: That is very cruel of you. He has told us everything he knows. Certainly he has his own life to worry about. Jacapo: "He's in Bologna, it's a voyage of several days from Rome" Proclus of Rome: Yeah you don't want to get all urpy, Bonfilia. Bonfilia of Verditius: "So you said, Jacapo. I suppose we'll be scheduling a journey then. You will remain in our catacombs until we are ready to travel. Don't worry. I'll keep you fed." "Think of it as a debtor's prison." Jacapo: he curses you under his breath but can't do much else Proclus of Rome: I wouldn't eat anything she gives you. Bonfilia of Verditius: looks like we just found a use for the unused room Jacapo: great Proclus of Rome: Ok, I think we should go tell the Contis what we found out. It's only fair. Jacapo: If you like Bonfilia of Verditius: I make the ?????? ? face. Proclus of Rome: Well, we have to live with them. Jacapo: Going to Bologna will be a distraction from labwork, I'm going to pull a number out of my ass and assume it takes a week to get there Proclus of Rome: It's better to cooperate with them than it is to make them our enemies. Bonfilia of Verditius: If we go them now they will know we have Jacapo. It's better to ignore them. Proclus of Rome: We should tell them now while we still have the chance to return Jacapo. After all, he could just be lying to us. Bonfilia of Verditius: That course of action would be the least rewarding of all! If he brings us to the person manufacturing these books we can deal with the source directly. Either to buy more books or to reveal his activities to the tribunal. Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Aristocritus of Trianoma: I didn't stack mud for four hours for nothing, Proclus. Proclus of Rome: Well we could always wait until after our investigation is complete to fill in the Contis. Amazing map! Jacapo: who's going on the trip Proclus of Rome: Amazing Map Ahead. I will. Aleseta of Bonisagus: i wil trip Aristocritus of Trianoma: i'll go Bonfilia of Verditius: I've got to, otherwise Proclus might ruin this business opportunity. johns (GM): behold ! bologna Proclus of Rome: Nice and square. johns (GM): i didn't photoshop this so some tv antennae probably made it into the pic Aleseta of Bonisagus ragequits johns (GM): but it still looks remarkably old fashioned for a modern city Proclus of Rome: There's a big ol' truck in the bottom right. Aristocritus of Trianoma: i see solar panels johns (GM): hm, must be a demon at work Proclus of Rome: Yeah, at work GMing this game! johns (GM): lmao Aleseta of Bonisagus: damn Aristocritus of Trianoma: nice. johns (GM) dies on the spot Bonfilia of Verditius: holy shit Proclus of Rome: Ok I guess it's time for you to run your adventure Prinny. johns (GM): Jacapo grumblingly leads you to an office at the University where his contact, Philip di Carbognano works Bonfilia of Verditius: whoever has gentle should deal with this Aristocritus of Trianoma: gabagool carbonara, ph.d. johns (GM): That would be.. none of you, as I recall Aleseta of Bonisagus: haha Aristocritus of Trianoma: whoever has rego mentem should deal with this. Proclus of Rome: That's me! johns (GM): can you gimme another link to your sheet josh Aristocritus of Trianoma: hmm. Aleseta of Bonisagus: rego shitty casting totalam just a sec... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58877228/AM5_Aleseta.pdf Proclus of Rome: I have 15. Well, 12. Bonfilia of Verditius: rego mentem is 5 here we should figure out a plan first Proclus of Rome: We should politely introduce ourselves. Bonfilia of Verditius: do we want to buy more books from him or reveal him to the tribunal for his crimes against the order Aleseta of Bonisagus: water we doing here again Bonfilia of Verditius: he has been copying the nearby covenant's books and selling them Proclus of Rome: Right. It wouldn't be right to blackmail him. Especially since we bought books from him. Aristocritus of Trianoma: what's the name of that uppermost level of windows on what i assume is the cathedral Aleseta of Bonisagus: TOPPA DI CATTEDRALE johns (GM): lol Aristocritus of Trianoma: totally unrelated to any wizard intrigue Bonfilia of Verditius: alright I guess I'll go up to the man with Jacapo and greet him. Aristocritus of Trianoma: clerestory. johns (GM): you knock on his office door and he opens it Philip di Carbognano: he expresses a quick array of reactions Surprise, shock, fear, anger Bonfilia of Verditius: I express arrogance. Philip di Carbognano: He keeps the door ajar but blocks the way in neither slamming it in your face nor inviting you in Proclus of Rome: Hello, I'm Proclus of Rome. Aleseta of Bonisagus: he's actually a commedia dell'arte troupe Philip di Carbognano: Proclus, do you speak in latin or italian Proclus of Rome: Oh good point. Aleseta of Bonisagus: aleseta does. Proclus of Rome: Well, they'd both sound similar in this sentence. But I suppose I should go with Latin. Philip di Carbognano: i think everyone here speaks both, just wondering which of the two you'd want for this guy Aleseta of Bonisagus: oh, sorry, nvm Philip di Carbognano: Hesitantly, "Salve.. What is the meaning of this?" Bonfilia of Verditius: "Greetings. I assume you understand how we have come to be here." I gesture at Jacapo. "I hear you are a supplier of certain... goods. It is an interesting trade. Perhaps you would prefer it discussed in private?" Proclus of Rome: Specifically, we'd like to buy books. Philip di Carbognano: He glares at Jacapo then back at you. "There are no more books to sell. I was caught. You should drop the matter now." Proclus of Rome: Oh, who caught you? Jacapo was caught by the Contis in Rome, you know. Philip di Carbognano: "What? That doesn't make much sense." Proclus of Rome: Maybe we could help you, too. Philip di Carbognano: "My masters are powerful sorts not to be trifled with. I will not go behind their backs again." Proclus of Rome: Oh? Well then can we have our money back? Bonfilia of Verditius: I shake my head. Proclus has no sense for business. Proclus of Rome: I assume you mean extortion. Which isn't possible in this case. Oh but you know, we should probably contact his masters, so we can explain ourselves. Philip di Carbognano: "Eh.." He and Jacapo converse quickly in Italian, Jacapo tells him about the specific two books you bought. "I would need some time to put it together. You got two of the books so you only need half the money, right?" Proclus of Rome: What on earth is this track? Philip di Carbognano: Dungeon I by Tabletop Audio ofc Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Aristocritus of Trianoma: i don't hear anything Aleseta of Bonisagus: i also don't hear anything because my LIFE is a fuCKING DUNGEON 24/7 Proclus of Rome: Well, what do you think, should we just forgo the payment in exchange for a meeting with the Bologna covenant? Philip di Carbognano: lmao Bonfilia of Verditius: "Half the money is acceptable..." I say begrudingly. Proclus of Rome: Wait do you have the volume set to like 1%? Bonfilia of Verditius: the volume is fine on my end Works On My Machine Philip di Carbognano: you can change the volume on the options tab (the gear button) Aristocritus of Trianoma: it's at 100% Philip di Carbognano: well Philip isn't really in a position to argue with you, he can write a draft on the Peruzzi bank Proclus of Rome: We should probably apologize to his masters since we benefited from his crime. Philip di Carbognano: it was these two books iirc Bonfilia of Verditius: They might ask us to burn the books we bought. Proclus of Rome: Well it would only be fair. Aleseta of Bonisagus: lmao peruzzi Bonfilia of Verditius: My suggestion would be to accept the funds and go home. Philip di Carbognano: the bank of siena recently went into ruin due to the policies of King Philip the Fair Aristocritus of Trianoma: that seems like the sanest thing to do Philip di Carbognano: alright Kind of a downer but it's your call Proclus of Rome: I think we should take the opportunity to open relations with the Bologna covenant. Nothing like an apology to make friends! Aleseta of Bonisagus: cool, cool. Philip di Carbognano: The others can't stop you Proclus short of certamenning the issue Aristocritus of Trianoma: well, i have one (1) point in code of hermes lore Proclus of Rome: Well, I don't want to make my friends upset. Aristocritus of Trianoma: how much of a crime have we committed by buying the books rolling 1d10! ( 5 ) = 5 Bonfilia of Verditius: It's not a hill I'd be willing to die on, but it seems like it could be trouble for us if we apologize. Proclus of Rome: You'd add INT and your ability level to that roll. Aristocritus of Trianoma: +4, then johns (GM): Arguably none, you did not deprive anyone of magical resources since it was copies, and the Cow & Calf rule that limits book copying isn't an established part of the Roman peripheral code Proclus of Rome: Well there you go. Aristocritus of Trianoma: hm. Proclus of Rome: It doesn't cost anything to say sorry. What do you say? Aristocritus of Trianoma: well, i still don't see any point in drawing attention to it, but if proclus really wants to set things right Proclus of Rome: What do you think Bonfilia? Alesta? Andronicus of Jerbiton: Literatus is a Jerbiton dominated covenant, being Jerbitons the Magi are often traveling or engaging in pathetic non-magical pursuits. Andronicus of Jerbiton is in the area if you want to meet Aleseta of Bonisagus is too new to the situation to know if it's a bad idea or good. Aristocritus of Trianoma: obviously since my intuition isn't going off we're doing the right thing. Bonfilia of Verditius: I already stated my opinion. Proclus of Rome: Well, it isn't OBVIOUSLY a foolish thing to do. Ok. Well then I'm gonna do it. Andronicus of Jerbiton: Great Andronicus of Jerbiton quickly scans tribunal sourcebook for pertinent information Proclus of Rome: CLassic Jerbiton. Aristocritus of Trianoma: these guys have a LOT of books about diabolism apparently Andronicus of Jerbiton: Yeah uhhh White Wolf went a little heavy on the infernal aspect in its books Anyway, the covenant is located in an elegant manor house outside the city Proclus of Rome: Uh you mean you DIDN'T like the part where there's a constant devil war in Italy? Andronicus of Jerbiton: The Pope is Satan, and Frederick is Satan too Proclus of Rome: And also all the covenants are Infernal covenants. Frederick is actually double Satan. So that's three Satans right there. Lavinia of Jerbiton: i strongly object to that slander btw Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice Aristocritus of Trianoma: sounds historical Andronicus of Jerbiton: Anyway, I assume anyone who wants to be here is here You announce yourselves as Magi of Rome? Proclus of Rome: Well you know how I announce myself. Aleseta of Bonisagus: i do. Andronicus of Jerbiton: The doorman gives you a bit of a convoluted path through the manor, showing off all the elegant trappings, the excellent tapestries, fine stained glass, silkware, etc. Proclus of Rome: This is much nicer than skeletons, dust, and rats. Andronicus of Jerbiton: before leading you to a pleasant sitting room with Andronicus, who rises and greets you all warmly. "An honor to meet the Magi of Rome at least. Please make yourselves at home." Proclus of Rome: Does he have live musicians? Aleseta of Bonisagus does so. Andronicus of Jerbiton: He's got an enchanted music box playing bootleg mp3s Proclus of Rome: This is his right. Anyway, Andronicus of Jerbiton: "To what do I owe the occasion of your presence?" Proclus of Rome: I would like to formally apologize for being involved in an illicit book deal between our covenant and your servant. Andronicus of Jerbiton: He laughs. "So you were the other party in that matter with Philip? I must apologize to you for allowing this mess to spread to Rome, then." Proclus of Rome: Oh, was he mostly involved in dealing in Bologna? Aristocritus of Trianoma: And what a mess it's become. Andronicus of Jerbiton: He waves his hand dismissively. "Trouble yourselves not with it. It was our errant covenfolk who did the deed, so we shall see to it that the books are recovered." Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice Andronicus of Jerbiton: "As for Philip himself, a little bit of Mentem magic was all that was needed to remind him of his place." "Let us just go on and pretend the whole matter never happened, eh?" Proclus of Rome: What books are you looking to recover? Did I get disconnected? Aristocritus of Trianoma: aristocritus here Proclus of Rome: Ok phew. Bonfilia of Verditius: servers seem bad today Andronicus of Jerbiton: "As I said, it's a matter for us to handle now." Proclus of Rome: As scholars, I feel we have some responsibility towards one another. If there is any way we can help, I would be glad to. Andronicus of Jerbiton: He thinks for a minute "Well, perhaps you could keep an eye out for the merchant who was involved. He goes by the name of Jacapo. It would help if we could speak to him and see what he's been up to." Aleseta of Bonisagus: lol Proclus of Rome: This guy cannot catch a break. Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Though if he has any sense I am sure he has long vanished." rolling 1d10!+6 ( 8 ) +6 = 14 Aristocritus of Trianoma: did we bring our arcane connection Proclus of Rome: Well I am naturally inclined to be honest here. Andronicus of Jerbiton: rolling 1d10!+8 ( 10 + 8 ) +8 = 26 Proclus of Rome: Good rolls Andronicus! Andronicus of Jerbiton: those die rolls signify nothing of importance Aristocritus of Trianoma: the number of halberdiers waiting for us when we return to rome Proclus of Rome: We helped Jacapo broker a deal with one of the important families of Rome. Andronicus of Jerbiton: You have his A/C, I assume the Magi hold onto them until they expire Proclus of Rome: That's just common sense. Bonfilia of Verditius: endrite when your character is saying something put it inbetween "", it gets difficult to tell if you're reasoning in OOC manners or not sometimes Proclus of Rome: I feel like there is no difference. Yes I am saying that. Andronicus of Jerbiton: lol "You did, did you? Which family?" Bonfilia of Verditius: well the difference is if you are saying something the GM can respond to it, otherwise he wont Proclus of Rome: Fair enough. "The Capocci family." "Don't worry, they were merely interested in books of Infernal Lore, as they were beset by a curse." Andronicus of Jerbiton shrugs and smiles Andronicus of Jerbiton: "I do not mind dissemination of knowledge but prefer it in the hands of scholars who can appreciate it. Very well, I shall tend to that." Proclus of Rome: "Don't trouble yourself, after all, we made the mistake and Rome is our domain." Andronicus of Jerbiton: He doesn't respond to that. "And what of the merchant himself, what has become of him?" Proclus of Rome: "We helped him escape. He was in custody at the time do to a trade dispute." I mean "due to a trade dispute." of course. Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Interesting. Where did he escape to?" Proclus of Rome: "I don't know where he is. We had a deal." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Come now, the man is an accomplice to theft from your Hermetic sodales.. Surely you wouldn't let such a criminal go unpunished?" Proclus of Rome: "Now I'm no lawyer, but I know that theft involves the deprivation of property. If he only sold copies, then what have you lost?" Bonfilia of Verditius: I'm no hotshot big city Bologna lawyer, but where I'm from y'see Andronicus of Jerbiton: "If knowledge is not hard won, then it comes with no responsibility. Allowing works to be copied and traded on the open market like this cheapens their value." Proclus of Rome: "That still doesn't sound like theft to me. I understand you are interested in the preservation of knowledge, but just think about how many people are interested in your books now." "Rome might not be a rich city, but the nobles are certainly wealthy enough to buy your books." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Wealth does not change the fact that they are mundanes and certain knowledge is dangerous in their hands." Proclus of Rome: "People learn dangerous things all the time. We in the Roman covenant will certainly make sure they don't abuse their knowledge. We do live shoulder to shoulder with them." Aleseta of Bonisagus nods Bonisagushly. Andronicus of Jerbiton pours some wine and muses for a bit Andronicus of Jerbiton: "You'll need to know where all the books went if you are to make such a promise, correct?" Proclus of Rome: Of course. Andronicus of Jerbiton: "And has Jacapo accounted for all of them to you?" Proclus of Rome: "Yes, all 6." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Then he has lied to you and you were too trusting to notice it. I assure you, my Mentem magic can suss out the truth if you provide the man." i assume proclus was making an intentional bit of guile there and not a mistake? Proclus of Rome: No it's six right? Andronicus of Jerbiton: 4 went to the capocci, 2 went to you, 2 were confiscated by the conti Proclus of Rome: 4 to the Cappocci's and 2 to us. OH! I didn't realize that the 2 were confiscated. Aristocritus of Trianoma: he also had like a dozen other books available when we went through his stock Proclus of Rome: Naturally I want to be honest here. Andronicus of Jerbiton: Yeah, his arrangement was you had to pick them out first and then he'd have someone (presumably Philip) make a copy of the book from the library Aristocritus of Trianoma: oh, right Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Okay, tell me where all the books' copies have gone then." Proclus of Rome: "We bought two copies and four books went to the Cappocci family." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Ah, that makes things quite simple then. You won't mind returning the books I presume?" Proclus of Rome: You guys aren't willing to give the books back, right? I know I'm not. Bonfilia of Verditius: I am against it, but not really partaking in this conversation. Aristocritus of Trianoma: i would mind. i gotta run though Andronicus of Jerbiton: l8r d00d Proclus of Rome: Bye. Man where is everyone? Aleseta of Bonisagus: I still don't understand the stakes well enough to jump in and argue sorry. Proclus of Rome: Oh no, I mean we're missing two people. Anyway. Andronicus of Jerbiton: never let that stop you imo Aleseta of Bonisagus: "ANYway...." Aleseta Kramers into the Jerbiton's desk. jk Andronicus of Jerbiton: the stakes are an animal summa and Aleseta of Bonisagus: oh an animal summa u say Proclus of Rome: It might well be worthless to you. Andronicus of Jerbiton: and terram the rego/vim books were taken by the contis and that was over a week ago since you left Rome so who knows what's happened to them now Aleseta of Bonisagus: my animal is only 8. my arts actually aren't that great w00t Proclus of Rome: Well sounds like quite the tome! Aleseta of Bonisagus: so what are we negotiating with these dudes anyhow Proclus of Rome: There are also 3 books on Infernal Lore and a Intellego tract that went to the Cappoccis. Aleseta of Bonisagus: or are we just trying to not piss them off? Proclus of Rome: They want the books back. Andronicus of Jerbiton: it was Proclus' idea to meet with them Proclus of Rome: Yes. Andronicus of Jerbiton: so you would need to ask him what he was hoping to accomplish Proclus of Rome: Well, I want open and honest relations with the other Covenants in the Tribunal of Rome. This also allows us to take charge of the situation instead of just having the Literatuses meddling in Roman affairs. Anyway, "I'm afraid that what you ask for cannot be done. The books were purchased in good faith. We will make sure that the knowledge contained within them is not misused, of course." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Naturally we will compensate you for the expense. But I do not understand how you can take the side of a thief and a conman over your sodales and expect me to accept it is done in good faith." Proclus of Rome: Hmm he's willing to pay us. Aleseta of Bonisagus: "We are his sodales, the ones entered into a mutual covenant. This is our first meeting." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Let's not think of individual covenants, but what is best for the Tribunal as a whole, the Order as a whole." Aleseta of Bonisagus: "It's just that in this case what you suggest benefits the order as a whole happens to benefit your covenant." Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Though to put it another way-- it seems certain that our respective covenants will be dealing with each other well into the future. If we speak of 'good faith,' then I would consider it an act of good faith to return the books to us, and the opening to amenable relations in the years to come." Proclus of Rome: Well what do you guys think of his offer? I'm still against it but of course I don't have any Order of Hermes knowledge. Aleseta of Bonisagus: i have CoH but i'm pretty sure i don't need to roll to know that there isn't a legal basis for him to be bent out of shape. Bonfilia of Verditius: Bonfilia doesn't care much about the Order as a whole, if it means giving away our resources. But maybe they could be persuaded to pay more than we paid for the books. Andronicus of Jerbiton: Legally you are safe Proclus of Rome: I meant in terms of tradition, not legality. Andronicus of Jerbiton: in terms of finance, you paid 68$ for the books, you've kept 2 that were worth 40$, and philip gives you 28$ back when you asked him Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Well, we could give our books back but I don't know how we'd get the Cappocci's books back. Bonfilia of Verditius: They can get those book backs themselves and probably will no matter what we do. Proclus of Rome: I don't want to set a precedent where other Covenants can do as they please in Rome. We're already quite poor and weak. Hmm, lemme check our library. We don't have any Lore books we could trade to the Cappoccis for their Infernal Lore books. I was thinking we could recover those books for the Literatuses and then keep the summae we bought. I'm thinking the worst outcome here is that they make a mess of our pots and pans in Rome. Aleseta of Bonisagus: more likely they will just be jerks to us in the future. Andronicus of Jerbiton: to bring ropekid up to speed: you have good relations with the Capocci family. you helped their son when he was under a curse, they gave you a pet falcon, and invited you to join their court Proclus of Rome: Yes. Andronicus of Jerbiton: (the magi politely ducked the invite) Aleseta of Bonisagus: cool Proclus of Rome: We refused, but if they get magically interfered with again, they aren't likely to be happy with us. Aleseta of Bonisagus: you mean interfered with by these guys? Proclus of Rome: Yes. When they steal their Infernal Lore books. I don't know how subtle they'll be about it. Bonfilia of Verditius: the head of the capocci family is my pen-pal and fellow scholar of the infernal Proclus of Rome: Also, the Contis (who confiscated two of our summae and hate us) would blame us if Literatus made trouble for them. Aleseta of Bonisagus: hmm Proclus of Rome: Assuming they haven't destroyed the books already. Aleseta of Bonisagus: why would they blame us? Also, so we don't sit staring at this map for the next hour, what are our practical options here? Proclus of Rome: Torquato di Conti, the head of the family, is very vigilant about opposing Satanism. Unfortunately he isn't all that educated. Also we've made a bad impression. Andronicus of Jerbiton: should I offer what Lavinia would say if she were here Bonfilia of Verditius: it is a fairly major decision so go ahead Proclus of Rome: Yes, we're disastrously short on Magi. Lavinia of Jerbiton: well I have no stake in the books as I can't use them anyway But I know that we're already getting bullied by that Guernicus from Magvillus Proclus of Rome: Lavinia is a Euclidean. Lavinia of Jerbiton: I also know that if these guys interfered with the mundanes in a way that blew back on us, and we could prove it, we could take the matter to Tribunal Aleseta of Bonisagus: tru Proclus of Rome: The Roman Tribunal is really weak though. Do we have anything we could offer them instead of the books? Aleseta of Bonisagus: Aleseta could offer teaching. Lavinia of Jerbiton: I don't see why we owe them anything fursonally Aleseta of Bonisagus: though her arts aren't that great lmoa Proclus of Rome: I'd like to not piss them off too badly. Lavinia of Jerbiton: You can't make friends with everyone Proclus. Read Aesop Bonfilia of Verditius: Bonfilia hates people who try to deny her access to riches and magical possessions. Proclus of Rome: Well, we could give them the money that Philip gave us as a token of our esteem. Aleseta of Bonisagus: Aleseta doesn't object to that. cthinker: cumthinker's magus here johns (GM): hail Proclus of Rome: Yeah I think we'll just do that. cthinker: salve. Andronicus of Jerbiton: "I would really prefer the books, but I can't say no to a gift of that magnitude. It would keep the apprentices in parchment and quillink for years to come." Proclus of Rome: "Romans always pay their debts, Andronicus." Bonfilia of Verditius: Bonfilia makes le displeased merchant face. Aleseta of Bonisagus: ... Andronicus of Jerbiton: "Oh? I hadn't heard that. Good to know." he extends his hospitality until you decide to go home anything else worth trying to accomplish here? Proclus of Rome: Oh, I'd like to know what level aura his covenant has. Aleseta of Bonisagus studies their domesticated animals. Andronicus of Jerbiton: magic 1 Proclus of Rome: I'll use Approach of the Parbar Gate here. Bonfilia of Verditius: what a scrub tier aura cthinker: that's a very low aura for a covenant, isn't it Andronicus of Jerbiton: they're got some exotic caged animals for you to poke and prod at Aleseta of Bonisagus: nice aura for a clown wtf Andronicus of Jerbiton: Yup Proclus of Rome: I'm suspicious. Andronicus of Jerbiton: It's bad. Jerbitons are losers Bonfilia of Verditius: jerbitons are clowns cthinker: fuck jerbitons Aleseta of Bonisagus: jerk butt ons Proclus of Rome: With the level of books they have I can't believe their aura is this low. Andronicus of Jerbiton: they have an insanely good library because they are closely tied to one of the greatest universities in Europe Proclus of Rome: Sure thing Andronicus. Andronicus of Jerbiton: It's better than your library, that's for sure Proclus of Rome: Anyway, we still have a couple of things to deal with. Aleseta of Bonisagus: pwn Proclus of Rome: We need to decide what to do with Jacapo. Aleseta of Bonisagus: i gotta run. i should be able to play next sunday and hopefully will be more caught up by then ~* Andronicus of Jerbiton: woot, thanks for playing Aleseta of Bonisagus: farewell ~* cthinker: adieu Bonfilia of Verditius: Jacapo paid his debt to us. Proclus of Rome: Bye. Yeah but we took him from the Contis. Bonfilia of Verditius: The Contis are fucktards. Proclus of Rome: In addition, he lost his business because of us. Fucktards they may be, but they're our neighbors. Bonfilia of Verditius: We can't ally with every noble. The Capoccis are enough, we can just ignore our relations with the Contis cthinker: we sold the capoccis out though maybe we should look for a new noble family. Bonfilia of Verditius: why would the capoccis know we sold them out Proclus of Rome: We can't, they could send their boys around to the catacombs and root us out in an hour. Bonfilia of Verditius: if they send their boys we can just smash them with magic Proclus of Rome: Can we? Bonfilia of Verditius: yes Proclus of Rome: I think you're overestimating our power. Bonfilia of Verditius: I have a bunch of group spells like Trap of the Entwining Vines CrHe 15 R: Voice, D: Sun, T: Group Causes strong, woody vines to grow rapidly from fertile earth. The vines cover a circle 2 paces across and reach 6 feet high. Anything caught within them is immobilized. To avoid the vines, the target must make a Quickness – Encumbrance stress roll of 9+. To break out requires a Strength stress roll of 12+ (allowed once a round). Someone not trapped can cut a trapped person free in two rounds, assuming proper tools. The vines weaken and wither to dust at sunrise or sunset. (Base 1, +2 Voice, +2 Sun, +2 Group) Bonfilia of Verditius: Wall of Thorns CrHe 20 R: Voice, D: Sun, T: Group Within seconds, this spell creates a straight wall of woody, thorny bushes up to 20 paces long, 1 pace thick, and 4 paces high. The thorns, which are unnaturally resilient, have a +15 Soak, are cut by edged weapons only, and cutting through requires inflicting a Heavy Wound. Bodily forcing one’s way through the wall requires a Strength stress roll of 9+ and does +15 damage whether the attempt succeeds or fails. If the roll botches, an additional 5 points of damage are suffered. The wall grows out of existing bushes or fertile soil. An Athletics stress roll against an Ease Factor of 9 allows a character to scale the wall, but the character takes +10 damage in the process. (Base 1, +2 Voice, +2 Sun, +2 Group, +1 size) cthinker: our guard captain probably has some cool satanic powers, since he is definitely a cathar Bonfilia of Verditius: great spells for close quarters combat johns (GM): lol he has the epic cathar satanic power of getting beaten to death by crusaders cthinker: lol Proclus of Rome: In any case, we need to find out what they did with our books. Bonfilia of Verditius: I think we should let Jacapo go, he doesn't have any more use to us cthinker: should we just let the arcane connection time out Bonfilia of Verditius: the contis probably burned the books or put them in some chest somewhere. we cant get those back without assaulting them directly I think we should let things lie as we have them now, leave Jacapo in Bologna and go back home Proclus of Rome: Hmm, I suppose we don't need Jacapo for anything. You're right. johns (GM): kk takes a week to get home Marco the redcap is staying at the covenant when you get back and has your mail but nothing special there Do you let things lie as they are now? Proclus of Rome: What's our mail? johns (GM): whatever regular correspondence you have going on off-stage Proclus of Rome: Ok. Hmm. I think we should at least tell the Contis the results of our investigation and tell the Capoccis that their library may be in danger. Bonfilia of Verditius: dont implicate us johns (GM): you're going to tell the contis you broke out their prisoner ? Bonfilia of Verditius: just let things happen and nobody will suspect our role in all of it. well the contis may suspect but they cant prove it Proclus of Rome: Honestly I'm tempted to, but I think we should just tell them that we found out that the books were coming from the university in Bologna. Aristocritus of Trianoma: please, do not tell the contis we tunneled into their basement and set their diabolical prisoner free Lavinia of Jerbiton: I am starting to worry any time Proclus opens his mouth Proclus of Rome: I feel like I can resist that particular temptation. johns (GM): Well OK Proclus (& whoever else wants to go along) Proclus of Rome: Which university in Bologna was it again? johns (GM): There's just the one University of Bologna Proclus of Rome: Ok. johns (GM): pretty famous. trust me Proclus of Rome: I do. johns (GM): The doorman recalls you being kicked out and asks what the hell you want Proclus of Rome: "I've come to tell your lord of the results of our investigation into the recent trade in illicit books. I know he was concerned." johns (GM): he goes inside for awhile when he emerges: "The Barone has no wish to speak to you but the Chaplain will hear you if you like." Proclus of Rome: "That is fine by me." Fra Abel: You're ushered into the small chapel where you're met by a tonsured priest Proclus of Rome: "Hello!" Fra Abel: "Salve. What is on your mind?" Proclus of Rome: "I have found the source of the books that you and your master were so concerned with." "It seems they are copies of books from the University of Bologna." Fra Abel: "Oh?" Proclus of Rome: "Yes, I met with the man who copied them." Fra Abel: "Who was it?" rolling 1d10!+4 ( 4 ) +4 = 8 Proclus of Rome: "A man named Philip di Carbogano. I told him of the concern that he had created and he has agreed to stop." Fra Abel: rolling 1d10!+3 ( 2 ) +3 = 5 Proclus of Rome: Should I roll anything here? Fra Abel: I just rolled folk ken for you this guy doesn't seem especially surprised by your revelation "I see. Thank you for letting me know, I'll look further into the matter." Proclus of Rome: "It is my pleasure. Did the man you captured tell you anything more?" Fra Abel: "I'm not at liberty to say." Proclus of Rome: "Of course, I understand completely." Hmm I was about to ask him where I can find a copy of the Bible but I remembered that lay people aren't supposed to read it. "If we find out anything more, we'll be sure to tell you. We want to do our part to keep heresy out of Rome." Fra Abel: "Pax vobiscum" Proclus of Rome: "And also with you," I say methodishtily. Do we have any thought about dealing with the Capoccis? Or are we done? Bonfilia of Verditius: I don't have anything. Fra Abel: id be happy to call it here Proclus of Rome: Alright by me. Fra Abel: 7 adventure XP Proclus of Rome: Ok. Fra Abel: so how do we feel about Proclus being our spokesperson, repeatedly Endrite: It was tough this week because so few people showed up. I'm in favor of it. Bonfilia of Verditius: Bonfilia always speaks up when she has a specific course of action she wants things to go. Otherwise she doesn't care much what the other magi decide to do. Relations with the Contis doesn't have any effect on her economical prospects Endrite: What kind of business do the Contis do, anyway? johns (GM): as a feudal lord they possess certain rights, like taxing certain gates, merchants in certain areas, regulating certain guilds, and they have a presence on the Roman senate Endrite: Which guilds? johns (GM): oh this and that Endrite: Oh I see how it is. You don't know! johns (GM): Correct I failed my lore check Endrite: Alright. johns (GM): They also own regular estates in and out of the city like farms, vineyards, etc Endrite: What do you think CThinker? Aristocritus of Trianoma: c. Endrite: Should Proclus continue to be the covenant's spokesman? Aristocritus of Trianoma: i don't mind, in character or out of character Endrite: Well alright then. Bonfilia of Verditius: well he can be the spokesman when it's fitting, Bonfilia will try and hijack that role when it comes to business Endrite: I think I'm having trouble knowing when to stop talking and just roll something. I don't know if you guys are picking up on that. johns (GM): talking is better than rolling imo unless you want to back up a bluff or a threat mechanically Endrite: Alright. johns (GM): my concern is that honesty is not the best policy Endrite: I'm a little worried that I'm dominating the game time with talk. It's a rush, I'll tell you that for free. I mean, certainly a guy who doesn't like lying is not the best spokesman in the world. johns (GM): Eh we'll bring up the issue another time when there are more folks around ropekid has just jumped in so he didn't feel invested in the outcome Endrite: I figured Lodewig would take a more dominant role in negotiations, but he hasn't so far. Aristocritus of Trianoma: good to see the bird is still around Endrite: What is the roll to see if a special animal dies? During the year, I mean. johns (GM): dunno it's not very special it's just a bird Endrite: Yeah but it's notable. Aristocritus of Trianoma: get that bird a character sheet johns (GM): i gave it stats its in the Grogs folder Endrite: He has one. Bonfilia of Verditius: when he dies I'm going to cook him johns (GM): yum Endrite: Well, fair enough. What's the restipe? Aristocritus of Trianoma: oh, there it is Bonfilia of Verditius: it'll make a decent sympathetic bonus to an enchantment johns (GM): Bird, one day you will make a nice set of quills Endrite: When should we start making contact with the church? Bonfilia of Verditius: Never Aristocritus of Trianoma: the non-satanic members of the covenant can probably fulfill their spiritual needs by walking down the street to a church so, why on earth would we want to make contact with the church Endrite: It's a fairly significant feature of Rome. Bonfilia of Verditius: sometimes its better to remain unknown Endrite: If we want to do anything, we're going to bump into them eventually. Bonfilia of Verditius: sure but it's better if they dont know who we are we can just be some pesky wizards we should delay involving them as long as possible, since the dominion is in general not the best friends of magic Endrite: That's certainly true. How hard is it to get a copy of the Bible? johns (GM): easy Endrite: I saw it in the Dominion splat book and it seems pretty good. johns (GM): you can have it now if you like Endrite: Ok. I should double the Level of any Summa I find in a splat book, right? johns (GM): Yes but the Quality is the same Endrite: Right. johns (GM): which in the bible's case is pretty bad Endrite: Yep! Terrible. It's a Q3 book. Bonfilia of Verditius: the bible is for fucktards johns (GM): okay I put it on the library page Endrite: Great. Aristocritus of Trianoma: what's the level of the bible johns (GM): L20 Q3 summa on Theology, L6 Q3 summa on Church Lore Endrite: Level 20 Theology and level 6 Church Lore. Aristocritus of Trianoma: oh that's a lot Endrite: Good luck getting to level 20 on 3 XP a season. It would take 70 seasons. Bonfilia of Verditius: theres a reason monks have to devote their lives to bible studies Endrite: Half that if you're a book learner! Aristocritus of Trianoma: that's why you spend your life in study and contemplation of the bible! Endrite: Or you could get a better book like the four books of Sentences. Dominion Lore and Divine Lore are the same ability, right? johns (GM): yeah Endrite: Ok. johns (GM): my b Endrite: I'm just looking at the Christian books here and Book I of Sentences gives Divine Lore but The Celestial Hierarchy gives Dominion Lore. Aristocritus of Trianoma: does reading a multi-ability book give you experience in all of the abilities johns (GM): no you pick one ability to study at a time Aristocritus of Trianoma: messed up Bonfilia of Verditius: church lore and dominion lore is different though Endrite: Right. I just thought it was weird that they'd have two different terms in the same sidebar. johns (GM): bad editing definitely the same skill though Endrite: What about finding a copy of the Torah? johns (GM): in Latin, not so easy Endrite: What about in Hebrew? Aristocritus of Trianoma: seems like that also wouldn't be easy johns (GM): can you read hebrew? Endrite: Not yet. Bonfilia of Verditius: you can always steal one from the jews johns (GM): does The bible not include the torah Endrite: No. johns (GM): I don't know how historical this is but I envision Rome as having a Jewish slum somewhere hmm looking at it now the jewish ghetto wasn't established til 1555 Endrite: I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row by learning Hebrew, Greek, and Chaldean. Aristocritus of Trianoma: there are definitely jews in the city johns (GM): If only Baron Bonghits were here to sniff em out Endrite: RIP johns (GM): I think a Torah should be doable and you can hire a Hebrew teacher Aristocritus of Trianoma: they would not be very keen on giving away a torah johns (GM): yeah you'd have to pay them to make a copy Endrite: Hmm. johns (GM): not a big deal though rule of thumb nihnoz and I used last campaign was an average teacher costs half a pound per season Endrite: Ok. johns (GM): a better teacher costs 4/5ths of a pound a season Endrite: I want to create a version of End of the Mighty Castle that disassembles the building into reusable materials instead of shattering it. johns (GM): use Rego instead of Perdo then Endrite: How many additional magnitudes would that require though? I figured it would be a Rego requisite. johns (GM): what level is end the might castle, pete30? Aristocritus of Trianoma: wouldn't it be rego with a perdo requisite johns (GM): i see it as Rego Craft magic you're replicating the work that a bunch of laborers would do disassembling the building and making piles the difficulty would be in the Finesse roll required if you consider disassembling a tower a seasonal activity then the Ease Factor is at least 20 Endrite: Hmm I see. Well then. OH! I gotta do Aegis of the Hearth. johns (GM): ty for gaming with honor i'll roll for the alarm spell rites too Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10! + 2 + 3 + 4 + 3 + 14 ( 1 ) +2+3+4+3+14 = 27 Uh oh! What do I roll when I botch? Lavinia of Jerbiton: im checking You use 2 pawns of vis there right? Proclus of Rome: Yeah I have it at level 20 and I get half off. Lavinia of Jerbiton: So 1 + 2 from vis, do you have any virtues or flaws that modify botch die? Proclus of Rome: Nope. Lavinia of Jerbiton: rolling 3d10 ( 7 + 4 + 1 ) = 12 Proclus of Rome: That's 1 warping, right? Lavinia of Jerbiton: You gain 1 Warping point and the spell fails hmm what should an aegis botch look like.. Your Aegis appears in a completely unrelated place Proclus of Rome: Oh by the way, the Warping calculation on the spreadsheet is wrong. Lavinia of Jerbiton: :/ Proclus of Rome: It correctly advances on the Arts scale but it should also be subtracted by 1. Lavinia of Jerbiton: sorry Proclus of Rome: Since you need 5 to REACH 1 warping. No problemo. Just thought you should know so you can correct it. Lavinia of Jerbiton: Okay, the Aegis appears at the covenant's latitude and longitude, but 10 miles in the air Proclus of Rome: Alright. How would we know that? Lavinia of Jerbiton: A mythic bird gets mad and poops on your head Proclus of Rome: Darn bird. Ok. So should I try again? Lavinia of Jerbiton: please do Proclus of Rome: I think it might be a good idea to have mastered this. rolling 1d10! + 2 + 3 + 4 + 3 + 14 ( 5 ) +2+3+4+3+14 = 31 Lavinia of Jerbiton: ok, i'm casting 3 rites to guard the entrance to the covenant, the parma section of the library, and the entrance to my lab rolling 3d10 ( 5 + 1 + 8 ) = 14 Proclus of Rome: Oh right Penetration. Lavinia of Jerbiton: comm2, school is 3, rite is 6, aura is 3 = 14 and EF is 1 so a 1 is fine as long as it doesn't botch rolling 1d10 ( 5 ) = 5 no botch Proclus of Rome: rolling 1d10! + 2 + 4 ( 7 ) +2+4 = 13 Lavinia of Jerbiton: [2+3+6+3+8-15+8] 15 75 penetration on my best ward Proclus of Rome: Dang that's pretty good. Lavinia of Jerbiton: pentagrams give a 5x penetration multiplier Bonfilia of Verditius: hail satan Lavinia of Jerbiton: did I do the math right there? idk Proclus of Rome: Well, 5 times 15 IS 75 Lavinia of Jerbiton: im not sure if you multiply the Penetration skill or the level of penetration you have after applying the skill Proclus of Rome: 75 seems like a lot of penetration. Lavinia of Jerbiton: effectively I cast a L15 spell with a roll of 22 and my penetration is 8 so if I assume it's calculated the other way penetration is only 47 Proclus of Rome: Hmm. Well, I don't really know how it works for you. Can I use the Aegis of the Hearth text we have to build Mastery? Lavinia of Jerbiton: any spell you have you can practice for mastery Proclus of Rome: Or does it have to be a specific Mastery text? Lavinia of Jerbiton: a Mastery text builds mastery like a summa would, it has a Level and Quality Proclus of Rome: So it isn't the same as a Lab text, then. Alright. Lavinia of Jerbiton: hm, we have a problem Proclus of Rome: What is it? Lavinia of Jerbiton: well we only have enough vis for 5 more years of aegis of the hearth I will reroll the vis market in 1321 and then we may have to buy a bunch of Vim vis Proclus of Rome: Sounds like a good adventure hook. Aristocritus of Trianoma: isn't there a bunch in the catacombs Bonfilia of Verditius: I could sell The Beggar's Breakfast which would give us a lot of vis Lavinia of Jerbiton: We get 1 Vim vis per year and the Aegis costs 2, so we're dipping into the starting pool of untyped vis which is down 5 pawns after this botch & recast eh we'll worry about it in 1321 Proclus of Rome: Does it cost vis to practice a ritual? Lavinia of Jerbiton: Nope Proclus of Rome: Ok. So I'm probably going to devote two seasons to practicing it. Bonfilia of Verditius: lets see here The Beggar's Breakfast is an item with a vis cost of 16 (before verditius vis cost reductions), so its price would be 16x15 mythic pounds or alternatively 32 vis Proclus of Rome: Damn. Lavinia of Jerbiton: there's a fixed Verditius goods : vis ratio? Bonfilia of Verditius: yes, in the mystery cults book page 114 Lavinia of Jerbiton: That's fine Bonfilia of Verditius: in fact the prices are fixed by the primus so I'm not allowed to sell at different prices, legally Lavinia of Jerbiton: that Verditius seal of quality is worth a lot Bonfilia of Verditius: The price of a magic item is also dependent upon your saga and the cost in Mythic Pounds of a pawn of vis. Many “standard” sagas set the price of a pawn of vis at 10 Mythic Pounds. The offi cial House price of an item sold to a mundane buyer should be 1.5 times the amount of Mythic Pounds equal to a pawn of vis. Verditius-enchanted items should be expensive, and only the wealthiest mundanes should be able to afford them. Lavinia of Jerbiton: yeah I'm using 10 pounds as average price for Form vis & 15 pounds for average price of technique vis Proclus of Rome: Who would want to buy cursed bread? Lavinia of Jerbiton: Merinitas most likely Bonfilia of Verditius: who wouldn't want a bread that caused the gluttonous to become lepers Proclus of Rome: Probably anyone. Bonfilia of Verditius: It's just a prank, bro! Exclaims the cardinal as his friends drop like flies Proclus of Rome: Is there a resource for Mastery abilities for rituals? johns (GM): What kind of sick sad person would want to profit off leprosy? Proclus of Rome: The stuff in the core book is mostly inappropriate for a ritual. johns (GM) smirks Johanishly johns (GM): You can practice rituals the same way you can practice formulaic spells and don't need to spend vis Bonfilia of Verditius: I should make some items with the leprosy curse and plant them around town, then start selling leper cures Proclus of Rome: Right thank you but that is the answer to the last question I asked and not this one. You probably shouldn't do that. Have you considered giving leprosy cures away, instead? Bonfilia of Verditius: that would be illegal Aristocritus of Trianoma: isn't leprosy divine Bonfilia of Verditius: Verditius products may not be given for free, since that would serve to disturb the market of enchanted goods. johns (GM): there's divine leprosy & a hermetic verison of leprosy Proclus of Rome: Like I could take the Magic Resistance and Penetration mastery bonuses, but that leaves me two short and Fast Casting, Multiple Casting, Quiet Casting, and Still Casting are utterly inappropriate. johns (GM): magic resistance mastery on aegis is very useful Proclus of Rome: Well sure. Oh wait, I only get two. Since Mastery is an Ability. johns (GM): mastery rules are houseruled but only BR knows the specifics... Proclus of Rome: Oh wait does that mean I need 2 levels for every botch die I want to reduce? johns (GM): I think so Proclus of Rome: pell Mastery: add your full Spell Mastery score to your casting total with that spell. Reduce the number of botch dice you roll by half your score. Whenever your score advances to an even number choose one of the following perks: Here we go. Ok. Yeesh I'd need 5 seasons of practice. Bonfilia of Verditius: just never botch its simple Proclus of Rome: I guess I'd take Penetration, Resistance, and Multiple Casting if I did spend all that time. I'd expect to be compensated for that kind of endeavor. johns (GM): rolling 1d10!+8+25 ( 10 + 5 ) +8+25 = 48
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